What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite ?

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What do you think of : Realistic mode + tiredness on + Elite controls ?

it's better than Fair Mode + Tiredness on + Elite controls
40
50%
it's about same
5
6%
it's less good but I'll still play the Tour
5
6%
it's less good so I'll play only the Challenger/Future Tour
1
1%
it's less good and I won't play anymore
21
26%
I don't care
8
10%
 
Total votes : 80

Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby Lian » 27 Dec 2013, 01:54

Sorry. I want play anymore . I play when settings - Fair + Elite
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby manutoo » 27 Dec 2013, 05:19

Visible result :
For = 23
Against = 18
After removing non-playing (& fake) voters :
For = 20 (-3)
Against = 12 (-6)

You're still welcome to vote though, and give feedback about these new settings, as Algo outlined.

About powerful 2nd serve,
=> topic15-3580.php
and more particularly => topic15-3580.php?start=15#p49336
(this discussion was made when in Fair Mode the max serve power was 70% with max consistency of 100%, leading to 77% serves in with B1+B2 ; now, with Realistic Mod we have max of 90%/90%, leading to 70% of serves in)
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby testo » 27 Dec 2013, 09:04

manutoo wrote:
About powerful 2nd serve,
=> topic15-3580.php
and more particularly => topic15-3580.php?start=15#p49336
(this discussion was made when in Fair Mode the max serve power was 70% with max consistency of 100%, leading to 77% serves in with B1+B2 ; now, with Realistic Mod we have max of 90%/90%, leading to 70% of serves in)


7x% 1st serve ... just a very very far dream for me ! ;-)

Serve is probably is little bit too powerful but it's better than in fair mode.
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby Fighter Fognini » 27 Dec 2013, 18:44

The best solution could be realistic mode for service and fair mode for rally.

Is possible implement a new game mode?
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby Petr Kroppe » 27 Dec 2013, 22:43

I found another bad side of new settings.
Serve guessers are overrated. With their huge forehend and backhand skills they can hit clear winner if they guess your way of serve correctly.

Match looks like this -> You served -> In case of opponent didnt guess your service -> ace, if he guessed it -> return winner. My last match average rally length was 1.3 my 16 serves with 14 concluded ace (8) or return winner (6). I thought those changes were made to make holding service easier. It is harder actually when you had service guesser opposite to you. Bonus for desperation, handicap for reflex.
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby testo » 27 Dec 2013, 23:47

Manu, please remap serve to 80% instead of 90% .... too much winning serve kill the game, really

and it goes too fast (rallies) , my poor and slow grand'ma reaction make me not well positionned very often : tens and tens errors ...
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby manutoo » 28 Dec 2013, 04:10

seb,
I won't change setting of the Realistic Mode ; it's meant to be for top players & for people wanting high speed game.
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby testo » 28 Dec 2013, 16:14

manutoo wrote:seb,
I won't change setting of the Realistic Mode ; it's meant to be for top players & for people wanting high speed game.



ok ... so let the 20 or 30 players in the whole world able to play good with these settings.

The rest of the world will play offline
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby manutoo » 29 Dec 2013, 06:18

seb,
the "rest of the world" can play online with the Fair mode, either in normal matches, or in the Challenger/Future Tour.
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby testo » 29 Dec 2013, 10:40

manutoo wrote:seb,
the "rest of the world" can play online with the Fair mode, either in normal matches, or in the Challenger/Future Tour.


And about the "Normal" Online World tour ???
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby Policeman » 29 Dec 2013, 23:06

It's not so bad this realistic settings,but it's very very though to play with guy from other continent/I recently played with a guy and ping was 90 for 2 minutes than last 8 minutes lag was awfull,internet both of us were good,so if this was just a bug ok,but if this will be all matches with guys from other countries or continets that will kill the game.
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby GoAga » 29 Dec 2013, 23:23

I would like to hear one but constructive argument about the fact that the game is now better(Realistic mode) ... Can someone answer? I do not see anything good in that it is very difficult to return a service ... There is no rallies only Srvice-Forhend-Point... This mode really should be modified...
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby Sorana » 29 Dec 2013, 23:34

goaga , for u is just service-forhand-point because probabbly you don't play with a good defensive player. and i think realistic is good because to be in top on this tour the players should have a good defensive and should be a good offensive player too. when fair mode was playing on tour, the percent to be a good payer was 80% offensive and 20% defensive. now, on realistic the percent it's 50%-50%
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby Nadalesque » 30 Dec 2013, 18:01

I think it's just fine..
If you're a quality player, the settings shouldn't affect you.

@ManuToo
Just a small doubt wrt to the new settings.
Does the tiredness meter come down faster for defenders?
Cause it certainly isn't dependent on whether you hit a B1+B2 shot or a plain B1 shot.
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Re: What do you think of : Realistic + Tiredness on + Elite

Postby manutoo » 31 Dec 2013, 05:20

Nadalesque,
I'm not sure to understand... Faster than what ? Other styles ? Other online modes ? Other other ?
Anyway, here, you can find all the rules for Tiredness => http://www.managames.com/tennis/doc/Ten ... #tiredness .
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