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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby testo » 10 Sep 2013, 15:56

i hope you have noticed that i said : "high delay and high % of lag kill the game" and not "laggers"

For me, laggers could be players who slow their internet flow with specific appliction so i don"t think there is a lot in the tour.
The only guilty in the distance between players (and connection quality)

But it's true to say that some players succeed to play good with high delay & lags (it's not my case) and in this case, they invert the level / opponents
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Postby Rpha » 11 Sep 2013, 08:45

Tene,
I tried a little bit with default strikes and couldn't detect any differences. Maybe your annoyance predicated upon of a subjective viewpoint. Developer of Tennis Elbow enabled people without any money to play on tour. That's not to be taken for granted I think. But you should ask developer if there any advantages exists.
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby Tene » 11 Sep 2013, 09:30

Rpha , may be u r right it might be just a feeling but i do feel that certain strike styles can aim faster or slower in the direction that we aim to hit the shot.
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby manutoo » 12 Sep 2013, 04:52

strike styles have zero difference gameplay wise, except between 1 handed & 2 handed strikes (2h strikes have shorter reach, less power, but more consistency & a counter bonus) & for the visual hint they give for the left/right aim timing (ie: it might be harder to time your shot with a slow preparation strike) ; and demo users have the easiest to time strikes for FH & 1H-BH (it's the ones I use usually ;) ).
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby E=mc2 » 13 Sep 2013, 06:29

seb wrote:E=mc²

I think this not the subject ...
And regarding this part:
"but nikuson lost his touch last year because of new updates favouring Full version guys,so he left the game now", i think it's not a good reason. Look at the price of the full version : peanut ... and think about all the work done by Manu for this game
To buy the full version = respect for the author

After, that's true there are a lot of ***** people in the tour and i think that high delay and high % of lage kill the game

Just my opinion...

Well thats quite interesting but some updates are really game changing. Now i see short slices at a greater effect and i like it though. But there are certain strike styles of full version guys which are very advantageous like the kick serve of Nadal and Federer which obviously demo guys cannot use. Lets not talk about Full vs demo debate here--->the topic is about LR. Few people who guess while moving might actually get lucky to cover that shot and then get a winner. Its nothing wrong about it because we see it in real tennis too. But the players like nikuson,jai, myself highly depend on incredible defensive skills and we don't guess will moving----> This is a sign of great player not lucky player. So my point is there are plenty of good players in the rest of the world not just in Europe and we were very disappointed whenever some people(specially guys like Alex who are sore losers) call us "lucky" laggers, which is quite annoying :evil: In fact even with less lag ratio, there won't be much of a difference when we play them :lol:
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby E=mc2 » 13 Sep 2013, 06:31

seb wrote:i hope you have noticed that i said : "high delay and high % of lag kill the game" and not "laggers"

For me, laggers could be players who slow their internet flow with specific appliction so i don"t think there is a lot in the tour.
The only guilty in the distance between players (and connection quality)

But it's true to say that some players succeed to play good with high delay & lags (it's not my case) and in this case, they invert the level / opponents

Thats what I meant to say...But some fools never understand "It's the distance that causes problem". All they do is, call us lucky laggers :annoyed:
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby E=mc2 » 13 Sep 2013, 06:42

manutoo wrote:strike styles have zero difference gameplay wise, except between 1 handed & 2 handed strikes (2h strikes have shorter reach, less power, but more consistency & a counter bonus) & for the visual hint they give for the left/right aim timing (ie: it might be harder to time your shot with a slow preparation strike) ; and demo users have the easiest to time strikes for FH & 1H-BH (it's the ones I use usually ;) ).

Well stats and gameplay-wise, nothing changes. But when your game mostly depends on seeing your opponent's body movement, which many great defenders in the game do---> there is a problem of expecting the range of their shots. So it effects your movement where it takes some time to adjust to the range your opponents(with full version) hit. With demo guys, U can clearly know where the ball might land actually, once you see the opponents body before he is about to hit the shot. But with full version opponents, U see some of the strike styles where the body movement is slower/faster depending on strike style, which kind of confuses u to know where the ball actually lands. This is an unrelated post to the topic though :x
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby Rpha » 13 Sep 2013, 08:00

E=mc2 wrote:... depends on seeing your opponent's body movement, which many great defenders in the game do---> there is a problem of expecting the range of their shots. ...

I think I'm defending very well and I don't care at all if opponent plays with full / demo version. Furthermore I don't think that anybody wants a online mode just for full version owner. It's a great bonus by developer and shouldn't be discuss.
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby E=mc2 » 14 Sep 2013, 06:51

Rpha wrote:I think I'm defending very well and I don't care at all if opponent plays with full / demo version. Furthermore I don't think that anybody wants a online mode just for full version owner. It's a great bonus by developer and shouldn't be discuss.

This is unrelated to the discussed topic here....but anyways i want to reply for your post. Well I believe in the policy--> "Everyone should be given same things when it comes to making a fair competition". You may not find a difference between full version and demo version. But there are many demo guys out there who want to play with different strike styles. Just an example: Its like playing football wearing an underwear(with guard lol) rather than the sports outfit. May not make a difference in gameplay but the feel is different lol :lol: And the feel can make a huge difference mentally. I hope u understand what I am talking about. I have nothing against the Game Owner Manu. He created a great game and he has the right to take any decision :jap: My point is about "Fair Competition" and not about the gameplay 8-)
Well u might ask me about " Why don't buy the game then?". My answer is "I am not concerned about buying the game but i want to see fair competition". All demo users may not be interested in spending the money. Even if I buy the game, there will many demo users out there, so the competition still doesnt become fair when i play them. If u start a tournament for everyone, all people should have same access to tools given to them :fear:
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby Rpha » 14 Sep 2013, 07:08

E=mc2 wrote:But there are many demo guys out there who want to play with different strike styles.

A fair competition would be (in an economic sense) that you have to buy TE to play online, never the other way round. We talk about 20$.
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby E=mc2 » 14 Sep 2013, 07:12

Rpha wrote:A fair competition would be (in an economic sense) that you have to buy TE to play online, never the other way round.

U are right and as i said I have nothing against the Game Owner. It is just valid in economic sense. But the online tournaments are for both full and demo guys and not everyone can offord to buy it though :wink:
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby Rpha » 14 Sep 2013, 07:21

E=mc2 wrote:U are right and as i said I have nothing against the Game Owner. It is just valid in economic sense. But the online tournaments are for both full and demo guys and not everyone can offord to buy it though :wink:

As developer said, difficulty is the same. Only "visual conveniences" for the guy who spend developer 20$ for their work.
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby E=mc2 » 14 Sep 2013, 07:27

Rpha wrote:As developer said, difficulty is the same. Only "visual conveniences" for the guy who spend developer 20$ for their work.

:banghead: I think u didnt understand what i meant :roll:
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby Rpha » 14 Sep 2013, 07:30

E=mc2 wrote: :banghead: I think u didnt understand what i meant :roll:

Anyway. Get over it. :yes:
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Re: Lag Rule (LR) - Tell me ur thoughts

Postby E=mc2 » 15 Sep 2013, 16:45

Rpha wrote:Anyway. Get over it. :yes:[/img]

u too :P :wink:
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