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To Lob or to not to lob ?

Postby rick-alex » 08 Apr 2009, 00:15

i see u guys talking and talking and talking... other player can deal with my lobs so whats ur problem? isnt this game about having ur type of game and use it? i have my tactics my game so its this way... See i win? u ran out of patience...u should control yourself now dont say its like...ohhhh not hnest and all tyhat stuff its a typ\e of match tactical or not... it is
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby S.Williamz » 08 Apr 2009, 05:21

So is something going to be done about the lobs...manutoo? Because if not I sure as hail will start using them if everyone else uses them...gee it's going to be some much fun, all rallies mainly lobs...I'm sure the lobbers will enjoy their lobs as much as well when their opponents start lobbing too... :roll:
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Leena » 08 Apr 2009, 05:33

I think it's up to the people running the tour, not ManuTOO. I also hope something is done.
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby S.Williamz » 08 Apr 2009, 06:22

Leena wrote:I think it's up to the people running the tour, not ManuTOO. I also hope something is done.


Oh I meant as in really doing something about them, like in an update. I suggest that the shot you hit off the lobs from the backcourt gets huge speed bonus, lol.
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Togtdyalttai » 08 Apr 2009, 06:59

S.Williamz wrote:I suggest that the shot you hit off the lobs from the backcourt gets huge speed bonus, lol.


There's just one problem with that: when you lob someone that's at the net and the net person runs back and hits it after it bounces that'd end up being the same thing as hitting a lob from a baseline rally.
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Leena » 08 Apr 2009, 07:15

A solution would be to highly increase the strength of an overhead smash from the backcourt. You're rarely able to get in position for that if you're running back from the net.
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Togtdyalttai » 08 Apr 2009, 07:17

Leena wrote:A solution would be to highly increase the strength of an overhead smash from the backcourt. You're rarely able to get in position for that if you're running back from the net.


I guess you need to play me more often :P
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby manutoo » 08 Apr 2009, 09:14

About the lobs in rally, I still didn't decided what I'll do with it.
With me, all people who do lob are losing the point at least 80% of times, but I have a good smash skill for my player, and I'm also good enough to handle the smash... :whistle:
But anyway, I'm thinking about lowering the lob precision when there's no opponent at net, so the lob could get shorter, and even maybe too long sometimes if prepared too late...
But I guess I won't have time to do an update right away... Maybe I'll do one in 10 days... (I want to add more anti-lag stuff as well : anti-lag aiming, and bigger initial run acceleration when playing with a big lag)
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Stefan Edberg » 08 Apr 2009, 10:31

manutoo wrote:About the lobs in rally, [...]

Every change is a good change against this....lol :dance:
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Candas » 08 Apr 2009, 17:19

Before changing lobs, think of the reason why people lob? The way alot of the power hitters hit is also unrealistic! they boom balls left right and centre without missing a ball. That is unrealistic. In real life even the power hitters miss. so if u need to change the lob because of public opinion (power hitters who cry) because of its unrealism then also change the power hitting too, where if the power hitter is late then he hits it long or if the power hitter hits it too early then into the net as an example. Just dont change the lobs because of a few people who say so, the few people who say so are the ones at the top of the rankings here. think about it. They are worried they wont dominate as much anymore. U want to have fairity and competition then do it properly and not to suit the needs of the top power hitters.

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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby S.Williamz » 08 Apr 2009, 17:43

Candas wrote:Before changing lobs, think of the reason why people lob? The way alot of the power hitters hit is also unrealistic! they boom balls left right and centre without missing a ball. That is unrealistic. In real life even the power hitters miss. so if u need to change the lob because of public opinion (power hitters who cry) because of its unrealism then also change the power hitting too, where if the power hitter is late then he hits it long or if the power hitter hits it too early then into the net as an example. Just dont change the lobs because of a few people who say so, the few people who say so are the ones at the top of the rankings here. think about it. They are worried they wont dominate as much anymore. U want to have fairity and competition then do it properly and not to suit the needs of the top power hitters.

Regards, Candas


Umm, "power hitters" do miss in this game too. But, there comes a point where a player gets skillful enough not to miss so much. You cannot force a player to miss if they simply know how to avoid missing. And it's not an issue about "losing dominance", I personally could not care less about that, it's about what is a fun and meaningful game. Lobs in rallies are not a part of that. It is only fun for you right now because you are playing players who do not want to use lobs, and that is why you are winning and that is why you find it fun. If lobs become a generally accepted way of playing, everyone will use lobs to get out of tough situations and the rallies will last forever and some more, and the rallies require far less tactical thinking and fast reactions than without lobs. I'm sure you will not find it enjoyable at this point. The lobs are so super powerful that it is not just "one tactic among others", it's something everyone who wants to win will have to use. So, in order to avoid this game developing in an completely ridiculous direction we have to destroy the virus right now. Yes we can! LOL
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Flavia Pennetta » 08 Apr 2009, 18:23

Candas wrote:Before changing lobs, think of the reason why people lob? The way alot of the power hitters hit is also unrealistic! they boom balls left right and centre without missing a ball. That is unrealistic. In real life even the power hitters miss. so if u need to change the lob because of public opinion (power hitters who cry) because of its unrealism then also change the power hitting too, where if the power hitter is late then he hits it long or if the power hitter hits it too early then into the net as an example. Just dont change the lobs because of a few people who say so, the few people who say so are the ones at the top of the rankings here. think about it. They are worried they wont dominate as much anymore. U want to have fairity and competition then do it properly and not to suit the needs of the top power hitters.

Regards, Candas


I can understand a player who, after a longrally, is no longer able to keep up the level and make a lob to regain court. But maybe we complain of people whose every shot is a lob... :roll: :roll:

Finally... the difference is that "POWER HITTERS",in addition to their game, are able to do lobs, while for BIG LOBBERS is not the same :dance: :dance:
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby adner » 08 Apr 2009, 19:00

manutoo wrote:About the lobs in rally, I still didn't decided what I'll do with it.
I'm thinking about lowering the lob precision when there's no opponent at net, so the lob could get shorter, and even maybe too long sometimes if prepared too late...


What a wonderful idea! I definitely support it.

About powerhitters that don't miss: I am not really sure if that's a big matter, even when I don't miss most of the top players can easily beat me even though I hit left-right.
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Togtdyalttai » 08 Apr 2009, 21:27

manutoo wrote:About the lobs in rally, I still didn't decided what I'll do with it.
With me, all people who do lob are losing the point at least 80% of times, but I have a good smash skill for my player, and I'm also good enough to handle the smash... :whistle:
But anyway, I'm thinking about lowering the lob precision when there's no opponent at net, so the lob could get shorter, and even maybe too long sometimes if prepared too late...
But I guess I won't have time to do an update right away... Maybe I'll do one in 10 days... (I want to add more anti-lag stuff as well : anti-lag aiming, and bigger initial run acceleration when playing with a big lag)


I love this idea! It seems kind of unrealistic, but it would definitely make gameplay better.
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Re: Casablanca (Offical Topic)

Postby Leena » 08 Apr 2009, 21:45

With me, all people who do lob are losing the point at least 80% of times, but I have a good smash skill for my player, and I'm also good enough to handle the smash...

That's partly because you have high net skills, which factor 50% into your smash skill for Fair Mode, I believe.

When playing against the top guys that run you corner to corner, it's hard to survive without 100% in speed and your strokes, not leaving much for net play.
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