Mana Games

[vamos rafa]

Some desyncs during long rallies, not too bad tho

[adner]

Lol, the version isn't that bad but you people don't understand the issue...The goal (at least mine) is to win big tournaments...SFs and Fs mean nothing - it's like filling the draw for an overpowered defender/counter who will take the title (in the current case, defender is overpowered) The other thing is that defender/counter have been overpowered for about 3 years...I think it has been enough It's a pity though that I didn't realise earlier why those people kept winning...PBs/punchers never really had a fair chance For example, I'm a puncher and there have been ZERO Masters/GS winners using this style in TE ever I think That is just a ridiculous stat...meaning it's pointless to try some styles because there will always be a good counter/defender that is overpowered due to the game's configuration Manutoo, just read this post...and think about it...

Maybe noone good enough is playing as puncher/power baseliner?

[Raz]

Lol, the version isn't that bad but you people don't understand the issue...The goal (at least mine) is to win big tournaments...SFs and Fs mean nothing - it's like filling the draw for an overpowered defender/counter who will take the title (in the current case, defender is overpowered) The other thing is that defender/counter have been overpowered for about 3 years...I think it has been enough It's a pity though that I didn't realise earlier why those people kept winning...PBs/punchers never really had a fair chance For example, I'm a puncher and there have been ZERO Masters/GS winners using this style in TE ever I think That is just a ridiculous stat...meaning it's pointless to try some styles because there will always be a good counter/defender that is overpowered due to the game's configuration Manutoo, just read this post...and think about it...

Too true, defenders and counters are too overpowered.

[Mohamed]

lol, defenders have just spin bonus and 1 extra accel, how can ppl call it overpowered when they have 2 extra accelerations + a pretty big jump at the net...

[Florian]

lol, defenders have just spin bonus and 1 extra accel, how can ppl call it overpowered when they have 2 extra accelerations + a pretty big jump at the net...

Since the fact that after ppl started to whine about the general reduced speed, manutoo decided to go back to the beginning of the year's usual movement (almost), and now they got a spin bonus which is for sure gonna be a nightmare on clay for the next months...

[Mohamed]

Defenders don't have speed bonus so at least this spin makes them called really "defenders"

[Florian]

Defenders don't have speed bonus so at least this spin makes them called really "defenders"

And they already had one before, but now it's just more fluky. Nvm, I agree with the fact that on clay a defender should always have an edge, it's just that deep fluke spins are also a nightmare to counter on faster and bouncy surfs.

[Stajus]

Too true, defenders and counters are too overpowered.

Indeed, I have come to know counter is still overpowered as well And defender is back to its glory (seen that part with my eyes )

@adner: I expect such a comment from a severe self-doubter Well, nevermind... The point is a "perfect" puncher will never beat a "perfect" defender/counter with the way the game has been programmed recently...And no, that doesn't mean they play better...I'm happy to play puncher vs puncher against anyone...not saying I would always win...just why on Earth would I need to adapt to defender/counter styles all the time - I do not want to use those styles. Let's make punchers overpowered (Djokovic is an amazing puncher with great counter "skill", he can generate his pace but he can also use the opponents' pace, Simon/Murray for example can't really generate pace; well Murray can, but in 1/100 matches ) for a change, then you can see how much fun that is? lol... No1 in real life is a puncher...so add two and two together...

Most people playing this game are clueless anyways...they'll accept losing to anyone/anything without seeking the explanations/reasons (or maybe they aren't competitive enough by nature)...Well, I finally found those reasons...so I'm settled now. Cya.

[Stajus]

lol, defenders have just spin bonus and 1 extra accel, how can ppl call it overpowered when they have 2 extra accelerations + a pretty big jump at the net...

+ unlimited aggressive lobs => making the jumps useless Plus, all styles have a pretty nice jump with high stats...as manu said...

P.S. Also that short slice rubbish is way too overpowered...haven't played since 2 days or something but I've seen people abusing it already

Like players can hit this shot 100 times a match? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl1b4E4w0sI ...More like 10 times max in their whole career

[Mohamed]

I have never used an agressive lob as it totally sucks fire2 + down lobs are much better lol..
Anyway, if defender style is really overpowered we would see billion of players using it but we just saw 3 players using that style in about 4 years

[Stajus]

I have never used an agressive lob as it totally sucks fire2 + down lobs are much better lol..
Anyway, if defender style is really overpowered we would see billion of players using it but we just saw 3 players using that style in about 4 years

And all of them were GS winners And..."The point is a "perfect" puncher will never beat a "perfect" defender/counter with the way the game has been programmed recently"...xd

[NAD]

how can i download the last update

[Maxy]

Stupid, stupid...Counter is completely destroyed and defender is overpowered, while PB and puncher are here and there, nothing special, I think you should improve counter just a little more and improve PB and punchers return... Are you reading this Manutoo?

[Florian]

Manutoo, why do you keep allowing when both players are at the net to defend smashes with the no-shot ? Is there anyway you could tell us how realistic this is ? Is is really something you want players to be able to defend smashes at the net with ? If not you could probably be able to remove it asap...
thanks for commenting on that at least...

[manutoo]

Florian,
I just removed some of these counter-smash possibilities, in the last Build. I don't like to make special case rule, that's why I have to tune the general rule till it handles correctly this case.

Maxy,
no worry, I read everything.