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Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby TTennisfan » 10 Oct 2009, 22:38

Do u agree with Stajus' hypothesis?
My Answer : YES
if this is possible to do (topic13-2640.php)
Why 400 speed wouldn't be possible, huh?
I've been waiting for this day since 10 months, cuz I totally knew something was not realistic.
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Share your thoughs!
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Re: Cheaty Stats

Postby Serena Williams » 10 Oct 2009, 22:41

i completely agree with you it is tested and the speed works,but it has a cost...
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Re: Hackers (Stats)!

Postby Jelena Jankovic » 10 Oct 2009, 23:40

Of course I agree!
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Re: Hackers (Stats)!

Postby Bob » 11 Oct 2009, 01:25

I still can not believe in this :unsure:
But I am sure that some players knew for this before, and that they used it against fair players... :evil:
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Re: Hackers (Stats)!

Postby manutoo » 11 Oct 2009, 04:58

Hello everybody,

so, it's not possible to cheat like this in TE2009.
The perceived difference in speed is called placebo effect. The propagation of its effect might be mass hysteria.
I personally watched 1 game of Tog to check if he was cheating or not, including the check of his skills. He wasn't cheating, but he's clearly a master of positioning, and he uses very well the left/right little speed bonus...

The only 2 cheats that are working now, are :
- serve power above 70% ; I won't give much details, but this needs to have a bit bad stats, so the advantage isn't big, and anyway, if your opponent's fastest serve in is faster than 208khm/129mph, u'll know about it (it's possible someone gets it without knowing it, just coz he wrongly set his skills) ; also, his serve skill in F5/F6 screen may be above 80% (which is the max in Fair Mode)
- Height above 200cm ; the speed handicap is capped to 200cm, so it's the same one if u set ur height to 220cm (for example) ; but once again, it should be easy to notice
Both will be fixed in next update coming in a few weeks...

Side notes :
- F5/F6 Stat screens show the real skills used during the match ; for example, Form = (Speed + Stamina) / 2 ; Forehand = (Power + Consistency + Precision) / 3 ; etc...
- heights under 155cm give only wingspan handicap, as the speed bonus is capped at 155cm
- Weight has 0 influence on the gameplay

Checking it's not possible to cheat :
Do like Stajus explained, but set speed to 250%, and other skills such that u have 780 points left. Try to run in warmup mode ; the difference is super obvious with 100%. Go to play online, u'll see u'll be back to 100% (u can check this in the F5/F6 screen)

If you notice anything really strange, u're welcome to post the .Dmo recorded file of your match, I'll try to have a look at it.

And to all people who play better when they use this non-working speed cheat, I think it's a proof u lack confidence, the power is in u, not in ur sword/gun/racket... ;) (many many movies references here :whistle: )
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby TTennisfan » 11 Oct 2009, 05:04

Someone needs to tell u exactly what we need fixed so this can't happen

Stajus go ahead
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby manutoo » 11 Oct 2009, 05:20

For people who missed the start of this "heat", look Stajus's post here : topic23-2630.php?start=120#p30035
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby Stajus » 11 Oct 2009, 05:25

Ok, Manu, I'm sorry but you're wrong. The power cheat works as well as I've been hitting deeper and harder more consistently and on the run as well...My weakness is usually my acceleration shot running backhand but I've been crushing those after I put 109...So, I don't think your story is the full story...As for the "placebo effect", call it what you wish, but I was moving faster (not necessarily an advantage if you're not used to it, obviously; but when you become used to it, it becomes a great advantage).

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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby Stajus » 11 Oct 2009, 05:26

Just do an if "stat > 100 then normalise_stat_to_100 (stat)"...I'm sure your code doesn't do this at present :D
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby Stajus » 11 Oct 2009, 05:34

But no worries, Manu...I can come out of retirement and do my tricks, since you're not accepting the truth :D So, let's see who's right 8-)
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby manutoo » 11 Oct 2009, 05:36

It's already there ... :roll:
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby Jelena Jankovic » 11 Oct 2009, 12:15

Stajus wrote:But no worries, Manu...I can come out of retirement and do my tricks, since you're not accepting the truth :D So, let's see who's right 8-)


:lol: I will change my stats too, I don't want to lose from some cheaters like KZ!!! :annoyed: I am glad to see you back... :D
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby Stajus » 11 Oct 2009, 14:29

Nah, I'm not back. And Tog is definitely NOT a cheater, I know that now :dance:
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby Jelena Jankovic » 11 Oct 2009, 14:36

Stajus wrote:Nah, I'm not back. And Tog is definitely NOT a cheater, I know that now :dance:


Mars...:D I know that Tog isn't a cheater... :D But KZ... No comment...lol
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Re: Hackers (Stats)! [Cheating Online]

Postby Tennischampion » 11 Oct 2009, 16:38

hahahahhahaha lol :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: this is unbelievable.i read the topic topic13-2640.php and i saw a godzilla and a tiny rat like boy playing with racket :KickBalls: .its getting more bad stuffffff over here :annoyed: .......seeems like cheats work online too becos i dont think a topspin guy can hit 150 speed shots.but i faced those things many times but i wondered how its possible.it seems like i played many cheaters i believe..now i came to know how. ther u r ................... :wink: :wink: a guy came out and said the truth to play with cheats.its stajus .lets appreciate him lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
ttenisfan,i too agree with stajus hypothesis becos i too checked with the stats that stajus said and i saw some unbelievable things like hitting at 158speeds while doing practice(dont know abt online whether its possible) and its possible to hack stats i believe if this is possible :evil:
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