djarvik wrote:I think it is kinda weak to ask Manu to pay for them. If you intended them to be free - then that is what they are.
I will provide them for free offline; you could use them as well for your ITST patch if you want (I hope everybody understood that). I already gave Manutoo a couple of good animations that are being used into the official game receiving in return an extra key for the game (which I didn't asked for yet but that's has nothing to do with it). I created a lot of animations which are available for free. I don't think at all that's a weak call from me...Weak it's when you do nothing...a lot of people are being called selfish just because they don't share with the others what they have created but somehow those who create nothing are not. That's my decision and I don't think you could blame me for that somehow. You can agree or disagree from a moral stand but my reasons and my choices have very good fundamentals. Hell I could have very well not shared at all my animations. I could have created everything for myself....it's my right, I have no responsibility towards anyone here. But I didn't
djarvik wrote:It looks to me you are a bit jealous of the fact that Manu can make a few extra sales because of these animations and you feel entitled to a share of these. Which is understandable, but if you want to be serious about it, you take them off the Forum right away. Then approach Manu and either sell them to him or ask for some sort of monetary arrangement. What you doing is making something "open source" then turn around and decide to charge for it.
Jealous is not the word...what I'm asking to Manutoo makes perfectly sense from a financial point of view. What Manutoo does is business; he's selling a product and everybody who contributed to its realization should be paid-off...plain and simple...here though I think we're heading to a more political or intellectual debate.
Whatever, the main point is that there's a difference between using the mods off the record and using them officialy and I'm sure you undertand this. Lots of mod have been created for videogames but I've never seen one used for the official game and most of all for free.
djarvik wrote:Sure Manu will benefit from having them in the game, but so what? He gave you the game and the platform to create these in the first place. He could have just made it impossible to Mod and that's that. ...if your intent was no to get paid for it, rather do it as a hobby and a "ego" polishing, then there is no issue. You got your fans/praises and your credits in every mod.
Yes but he didn't...the discussion ends here. There's a specific purpose for why he took this choice and that's one of the consequences.
djarvik wrote:It's not the money issue for me, could not care less for 5 euro or whatever...it's the fact that these are free now, and I am being asked to pay for them.
What you should do Lucian86 - is give an option to donate you online. I for once, would have sent you $20 a while ago already. Just to show my appreciation for your work. And I am sure many would do the same, you would end up with more than 200 euro.
Once again, they will be free offline...since you're playing with ITST mod online you coudn't just care less
About the donation stuff, I've never thought about it. Yeah, it could be a solution...my reasons and my choices though still make perfectly sense