How should the start rankings next year be determined?

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How should beginning rankings be decided?

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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby TTennisfan » 24 Nov 2008, 00:58

S.Williamz wrote:
Also want to add that there's about 35 tournaments in the calendar...so 35-11= 24...not such a huge difference after all... :D You should have atleast asked in a poll to delete all results, not do it on a personal whim...all I'm saying.




What is for the 35-11??
- And it was completly different the mod was completly out of the forum, games for months and i became mod.
- The winner of a Master recieved around 150 points so it was different then the real life way
- Tournaments weren't by order (Aus open on october) and tom paulman suggest to follow the real ATP Calendar.
- Old tournaments were officially dead, none posting on the forum Online tennis tournaments for around 2 months
- Old Tournaments were with 20-25 players and look right now how much are we?
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby S.Williamz » 24 Nov 2008, 01:07

TTennisfan wrote:


What is for the 35-11??
- And it was completly different the mod was completly out of the forum, games for months and i became mod.
- The winner of a Master recieved around 150 points so it was different then the real life way
- Tournaments weren't by order (Aus open on october) and tom paulman suggest to follow the real ATP Calendar.
- Old tournaments were officially dead, none posting on the forum Online tennis tournaments for around 2 months
- Old Tournaments were with 20-25 players and look right now how much are we?


Those aren't any real reasons to delete the results. They didn't cause any harm and it would have made more sense to just continue with the real atp calendar from where we left off, it's not like the previous results were preventing that. The rest of your reasons, just plain silly. :roll:
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby TTennisfan » 24 Nov 2008, 01:18

S.Williamz wrote:
Those aren't any real reasons to delete the results. They didn't cause any harm and it would have made more sense to just continue with the real atp calendar from where we left off, it's not like the previous results were preventing that. The rest of your reasons, just plain silly. :roll:


Ya playing Twice Aus Open winning them twice and win 2000 points in the same year for the same tournament in which it's not max than 1000 points , Smart ! and i didn't have any choices to delete them , cuz my job was going to be harder and even Stuey later gave me his Excel Doc, (Around May, June)
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby stuey » 24 Nov 2008, 01:22

YUGIOH wrote:Hi Stuey,
I have a suggestion.
(...)


hi yugioh ;)

well, that's for sure a good idea. one of the ideas we came up with was that we 'shrink' our 1year tournament season into a 6months season. that way tournaments would be more dynamic. we would have 2 seasons in 1 year. the other thing is there are lot of players who apply for tournaments, make a good score, and then disappear for different reasons (examples: marat safin, allez amelie... of course - bajko and s.williamz, etc etc), and by shrinking the season, we would at least partially solve this problem.
on the other side, we wouldn't follow RL tournaments anymore, and we would have to get rid of half of tournaments, so we would have like 4 grand slams, 6 (or 7) masters series tournaments, and certain number of other tournaments, all of them in 6 months time.
and this would affect rankings in this way: the entry period would be reduced to 26 weeks, which means last 26 tournaments would count for entry rankings. and every new tournament would kick the oldest on that list of last 26 tournaments out.


but of course, this is just an idea. there are really lots of stuff to be discussed and thought about, like what happens to last season's entry points, also we have to check that schedule and everything...

for now, what do all of you think of this shrinking 1year to 6months idea?
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby S.Williamz » 24 Nov 2008, 01:24

TTennisfan wrote:
Ya playing Twice Aus Open winning them twice and win 2000 points in the same year for the same tournament in which it's not max than 1000 points , Smart ! and i didn't have any choices to delete them , cuz my job was going to be harder and even Stuey later gave me his Excel Doc, (Around May, June)


Umm, we stopped at French Open and then you became a moderator, and we continued with Miami, which is AFTER French Open. So how can we play Aus Open twice? Yeah, we can't, we didn't play another Aus Open at all(so why delete the previous result? Makes no sense at all) you just decided to delete the results for no real reason at all.
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby TTennisfan » 24 Nov 2008, 01:29

Yea it's a good idea 2 seasons in a year, but the huge problem is that deadlines won't be respected for sure....
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby S.Williamz » 24 Nov 2008, 01:30

TTennisfan wrote:Yea it's a good idea 2 seasons in a year, but the huge problem is that deadlines won't be respected for sure....


I have absolutely no idea what you mean.
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby stuey » 24 Nov 2008, 01:31

TTennisfan wrote:Yea it's a good idea 2 seasons in a year, but the huge problem is that deadlines won't be respected for sure....


what is different about the deadlines? either case, we would still play one tournament per week..
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby TTennisfan » 24 Nov 2008, 01:32

S.Williamz wrote:
Umm, we stopped at French Open and then you became a moderator, and we continued with Miami, which is AFTER French Open. So how can we play Aus Open twice? Yeah, we can't, you just decided to delete the results for no real reason at all.



Yes but previous scores were deleted so we didn't play French Open twice.... ¨
and i had the idea of cancelling French Open if I weren't gonna delete results and rankings
Compris?
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby TTennisfan » 24 Nov 2008, 01:32

stuey wrote:
what is different about the deadlines? either case, we would still play one tournament per week..



Ah then it sucks
I am against this idea.
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby S.Williamz » 24 Nov 2008, 01:34

TTennisfan wrote:

Yes but previous scores were deleted so we didn't play French Open twice.... ¨
and i had the idea of cancelling French Open if I weren't gonna delete results and rankings
Compris?


Playing French Open AGAIN was a ridiculous decision...why, we played it already, what was so wrong with the first time? lol. And even then, deleting ALL of the results didn't make sense. Understand?
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby TTennisfan » 24 Nov 2008, 01:38

S.Williamz wrote:
Playing French Open AGAIN was a ridiculous decision...why, we played it already, what was so wrong with the first time? lol. And even then, deleting ALL of the results didn't make sense. Understand?


I THINK YOUR BRAIN ISN'T UPDATE!, I explain all the reasons why I deleted all results in a previous topic u'll check it if u want. I'll for the 5th time repeat why and now r-e-a-d carefully :
- Old Tournaments were with 20-25 players and look right now how much are we?


deleting ALL of the results didn't make sense.

How no sense ? :D
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S.F: Newport,

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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby S.Williamz » 24 Nov 2008, 01:45

TTennisfan wrote:
I THINK YOUR BRAIN ISN'T UPDATE!, I explain all the reasons why I deleted all results in a previous topic u'll check it if u want. I'll for the 5th time repeat why and now r-e-a-d carefully :
- Old Tournaments were with 20-25 players and look right now how much are we?


deleting ALL of the results didn't make sense.

How no sense ? :D


It makes zero sense. Less players means those results never happened? That's almost incomprehensible in it's ridiculousness. What if people are busy and some future tournament "only" has 25 players? We will delete that result too?
Also, it definitely does not make more sense than having new ranks because we have a WHOLE NEW GAME. :roll:
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby TTennisfan » 24 Nov 2008, 01:51

S.Williamz wrote:
It makes zero sense. Less players means those results never happened? That's almost incomprehensible in it's ridiculousness.
Also, it definitely does not make more sense than having new ranks because we have a WHOLE NEW GAME. :roll:



Uffff Can u shut up ?!

U are making no sense to make a rewind into a subject who has been totally talked, discussed MONTHS AGO!
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Re: How should the start rankings next year be determined?

Postby S.Williamz » 24 Nov 2008, 01:55

TTennisfan wrote:

Uffff Can u shut up ?!

U are making no sense to make a rewind into a subject who has been totally talked, discussed MONTHS AGO!


Well it wasn't discussed, it was only your own decision. :roll:

But you're right in that we should leave that in the past now. I was just baffled how you can accuse someone of having new rankings for bad reasons when you did the same with a lot worse reasons.
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