Reputation : ok or not ?

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What do you think of the Reputation System ?

Good : there are less annoying players now
17
32%
Good : but the annoying players are still same
4
8%
Neutral : It didn't change much my Online experience
11
21%
Bad : it's not working well => bad players can have good rep, & vice versa
13
25%
Bad : I got bad reputation and it's harder to get an opponent
4
8%
Bad : I got bad reputation (but no one care)
0
No votes
Oh, Shiny !
4
8%
 
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby manutoo » 08 Oct 2012, 04:57

On a side note, I wonder if I should not rename :
"Bad : it's not working well => bad players can have good rep, & vice versa"
to :
"Bad: I got neg votes but I'm such a good guy there's no way in hell that anyone could have a bad opinion of myself, even though everybody complain about me in the Forum", considering half of people who had voted for that choice... :mrgreen:

adner,
you got only 2 neg so far this month ; 1 from someone who beat you, and another one from someone you didn't crush (ie: not 6/1 or 6/0).

There are only a very few people who give too much neg votes, and they have been neutralized... :whistle:
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby Cup8489 » 13 Oct 2012, 18:30

I know an issue I'm having lately is that people are voting me bad rep for beating them. I'm courteous in game, praising good shots and never trash talking, but my rep went from 100'% to barely 50 for winning. It's an issue.. because it's an obvious result of people being angry they've lost. I'm not entirely sure how to counter it, but I don't like it much.
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby The Potro » 13 Oct 2012, 18:39

i dont like this system, cause, now i focuse on reputation rather than the game, its distracting.
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby manutoo » 14 Oct 2012, 04:21

Cup8489,
you got only 3 neg this month : 2 for 0/0 scores. Are you sure you're not a quitter ? :thinking:
Last one for a win at 7/6. Anyway, you still have a good rep, so you're far from being unable to play.
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby Cup8489 » 04 Nov 2012, 05:14

The 0/0 scores were me quitting because of opponents having significant lag, and thus quitting rather than having to play through an entire set of one point taking 5 minutes at a time. I don't mind losing, I just dont want to stick around and play out a match with someone if I can't even accurately hit.

I didn't realize you could still give rep on 0/0 scores.
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby manutoo » 05 Nov 2012, 05:01

Cup8489,
I just added this to 1st post of this topic :
- you can give vote even at 0/0 or after a few games, but it will count less than a vote at the end of the match
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby Br0ger » 17 Mar 2013, 17:58

I like this reputations system, because I can avoid unfair and annoying people.

But

I wish people would stop giving out bad rep for absolutely no reason. Today I got bad repped at least twice, I have no idea why. I always play a fair game, I don't insult anyone (I never even say anything in the chat), I rarely go to the menu or switch to other app. But some people still enjoy giving bad reputation, even if they beat me 6-3, like today....
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby Toyo » 07 Apr 2013, 15:16

@br0ger:

About players that giving after losing a bad reputation=>>>well I ignore the people with very(bad) AND even neutral.
Ok newby 'neutral' players starting with 'neutral and that's ok,but keep in mind that you can see the played matches vs reputation score of your opponent!
In my experience the good or very good 'reputation' players won't do that by giving a bad rep after losing (normally).
Manu knows that I was the most critical person about the 'reputation' thing,but in the long run it's one of the best options in this game because you can see what opponent you have
before playing for having a good CLEAR match!And most important=>the reputation system maked me a fair player as well and my reputation score is now 100%!
So credits to Manu and all the fair players!


Greetz toyo,
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby manutoo » 08 Apr 2013, 05:11

Toyo,
glad to see you finally like it ! :yes:
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby Br0ger » 14 Apr 2013, 15:56

Toyo wrote:@br0ger:

About players that giving after losing a bad reputation=>>>well I ignore the people with very(bad) AND even neutral.
Ok newby 'neutral' players starting with 'neutral and that's ok,but keep in mind that you can see the played matches vs reputation score of your opponent!
In my experience the good or very good 'reputation' players won't do that by giving a bad rep after losing (normally).
Manu knows that I was the most critical person about the 'reputation' thing,but in the long run it's one of the best options in this game because you can see what opponent you have
before playing for having a good CLEAR match!And most important=>the reputation system maked me a fair player as well and my reputation score is now 100%!
So credits to Manu and all the fair players!


Greetz toyo,


Thanks, but I have been avoiding players with bad reputation since the begining. Still there are some people who pushes the bad rep button for absolutely no reason.
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby jonnyboy21 » 17 Jun 2013, 13:24

how do you vote?
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby manutoo » 18 Jun 2013, 04:54

jonnyboy21,
just click on the thumb up/middle/down at end of the match.
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby Jeppyboy » 24 Jun 2013, 11:50

Br0ger wrote:I like this reputations system, because I can avoid unfair and annoying people.

But

I wish people would stop giving out bad rep for absolutely no reason. Today I got bad repped at least twice, I have no idea why. I always play a fair game, I don't insult anyone (I never even say anything in the chat), I rarely go to the menu or switch to other app. But some people still enjoy giving bad reputation, even if they beat me 6-3, like today....


I agree with you! I appreciate the reputation, because it allows me to know the really bad players. Still, I find myself wondering how some players have a good reputation when I play them, because they can be really disrespectful (but again that is a reason I can give them a bed rep at the end).

I also notice though that people are more likely to give you a bad rep then they are anything else. For example, very rarely (and I do mean very rarely) do I receive a good rep after I defeat a player with 1400+ ELO (I have 1700). I think they are really competitive, so when they lose, most probably just don't have it in them to give a good rep to say good match lol.

But that leads to why my reputation never gets about 50%. Right now I'm at 37%, simply because I win more matches than I lose, and most of those matches people want to give nothing or a bad rep just for losing. Before my last match, I had a reputation of 44%, but now it is 37%. The reason why? Because we had a close match, and after one long point, my opponent came to the net and I hit a sharp angle pass that hit the net. I did a fist pump, and my opponent paused the match and said that I shouldn't be fist pumping on balls that hit the net :roll: I hadn't even done any gestures of any sort before or after that point, and I told him I played a good point and thats why I did it....he gave me a bad rep after he lost the match in a tiebreaker.

So, yeah, overall it helps identify "very bad" rep players. It also is frustrating, though, to be a fair player and know that you are going to get a bad rep 50% of the time just for winning a match.

Maybe a limit could be made on how many bad reps someone can give per day or in a row. It is very unlikely that you would play a bad player three times in a row, for eample. Maybe their reputation can start to go down if they are handing out an unnecessary amount of bad reps per day. Or for example, if their average rep vote is a bad rep, then their reputation goes down. If someone is giving out bad reps, in turn, they should also be giving good reps to the ones that deserve it.
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby ElNino » 18 Nov 2013, 07:45

Maybe there is a possibility to lower the value of some players.
E.g. a player that gives negative elo only should be valued not that high.
Or you give a reputation blocker if you played less than 100 matches (you can be voted but you cant vote yourself)
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Re: Reputation : ok or not ?

Postby Heinrich von Westphalen » 18 Nov 2013, 09:39

After a period of observation, reputation system is useless ... I was over a period of 2-3 month polite and commended always well played tennis. Nevertheless my reputation is +2% because a lot of players gave bad rep. in front of their awful result, e.g. bagels. Especially a player called Play has given always bad reputation to me. I'm sorry for the 6/0 series, don't worry. He should just learn to Play at first. :unsure:

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