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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Mr.Schmith » 22 Aug 2010, 00:10

popolon reveal urself :fear: instead of hiding behind an unknown profile, and if ur not hiding then stop talking shit about people when u dont know this tour at all
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby MaxPoint » 22 Aug 2010, 01:12

When a person is rude, aggressive and always have malice in his comments, should be banned, I agree with ManuToo, Richou should have been banned for more than 3 months, 6 months would be fair.

As for the game and its updates, this is great because it always evolves for the better, getting better is always a game that has life.
ManuToo Thanks for giving us this great game.
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Eronakold » 22 Aug 2010, 01:35

It's funny how some people on this forum always have to agree with manu even when he is saying the biggest bs of the world, but I guess we need ass lickers too..
As for the updates of the game, people who can't play anyway wont notice any difference after an update no matter how drastic it is..
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby manutoo » 22 Aug 2010, 06:18

TTennisfan,
It's about basic respect of your interlocutor.
And anyway, someone who cannot write 2 lines without insulting usually doesn't have much interesting thing to say (you're a pretty good example of that, as he's Richou & most rude people we have on this forum).
And yup, we're in democracy, so you're welcome to write a blog to tell every insult you have in your mind. But not on my forum, thanks.

eronakold,
oh, the specialist of "I know better than everyone even if actually I write 1 false thing per sentence" is back.
So let destroy your message, piece by piece.
Could you stop acting like some dictator that gives people insanely long bans because they say things you dont like to hear like "bashing the game"

If you had taken the time to the read the posts and not only the subject, you'd have noticed I didn't ban Richou for bashing the game ; I let his 1st message there for several days, even if it seemed to be utter BS.
I only banned him when he insulted me, several days later.

your little brainless game

Then why do you lose your time with it ? And lose your time writing about it in the forum ? :thinking:

so listening some wouldnt hurt

when I didn't listen ?

the way you configured tiredness

AFAIR, only Brecht did a long report about tiredness, asked opinions from other players & no one cared to answer her. I asked several times for opinions about it, but I didn't get much, except for the short initial reports during the Beta test.
If you're able to write what you don't like about the current system without using "stupid, crap, shit" & other stuff like that, I'll be glad to read it.

as I dont remember an update that did more good than bad

yup, u got it right, the game is only getting crappier & crappier since 6 years, in my attempt to drive all people away from it. But as I'm a total failure, it had been only driven more & more people to it. How ironic.
(I feel obligated to precise that there's some kind of sarcasm in the previous sentence, you might have trouble to get it, being all 1st degree like you are)

It's funny how some people on this forum always have to agree with manu even when he is saying the biggest bs of the world

I think I clearly shown who is the official provider of BS here.
Try to write 1 true state from time to time, it'd be refreshing.
Else, JSTFU, thanks.


K Z,
So since 6 years, at least 50% of new stuff going into game is from people's comments (both suggestions & constructive criticisms), but I don't pay attention to what you say..? :thinking:
And it actually might be 80%, but I don't have time to go through the 200+ changelog & thousand of forum's posts & emails to do a precise stats.
And sure, I read all posts from suggestion threads, but a good bunch of suggestions requests a lot of work. Some others just don't really fit with the game.

but u didn't even do at least one of those suggestions

I just had a quick look at the 1st post of the main suggestion thread here : topic15-1912.php .
I did 2 of the stuff requested, and it was 2 big things.
So next time u write something, try to think a bit more, thanks.
I'll let you the joy to re-read the 16 pages & counts all the stuff I did from the suggestions. My guess is that it's around 10% of all, 50% of the feasible ones.

Oh, and look at the little number near my name, on the left :
Posts: 4547
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I wrote all these messages to myself, I guess..? :thinking:
Try to find another game author who wrote that much doing support of his game, answering questions, suggestions & criticisms from the users... You might find some, but you won't find many.

But don't worry, I'll make you right very soon, coz you just shown me your opinion is unworthy to be listened, as it's totally biased (you might have listened to Ero too much, and not read the forum enough, I'd guess... :thinking: )

Togtdyalttai,
I didn't do any big update since the initial released of TE2011 which has been Beta tested. And despite the huge improvements, very few people participated to the Beta test and some terrible bad bug has been only found once the v1.0 has been released... And if I recall well, you were in the ones who pointed out the cause of bug... ;)
So the double desync bug came from a quite minor change, at least on the side of the user, to the way camera is handled in the game. Before it was messy coz it was inherited from the original TE where the camera was 50% 2D & 50% 3D. It required to change some little pieces of code everywhere to get to a clean state.
Anyway, having a side test before the release wouldn't have given much.
1- most probable scenario : no one notices the desync bug (almost no one play doubles online except for the tournaments)
2- the bug is noticed but cannot find the cause ; so I'd have had to release it anyway to get more people testing
It took you 2 months to see the pattern leading to the Desynch. It took me 20 minutes to fix it once you shown me that lead. Unfortunately, when there's a bug that I can't reproduce on my system, I have to relay on people report, like it happened that time.

MaxPointtt,
glad to see there's still some decent people on this forum. I'm afraid all of you might be scared away by the Ero, TTFan, & Richou's style of people.
I'm this close to ban all their kind, I'm very fed up to read all their crap & fighting every morning.
As most of other decent people seems to post less & less, I'm afraid I'm not the only one driven away by such behavior.
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Maria Sharapova » 22 Aug 2010, 06:59

This seems to be getting out way out of control...
RETIRED.

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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Tennischampion » 22 Aug 2010, 12:33

bunch of mad fellows criticising the game and Manuttoo :shock: ......seriously u people r mad of winning always.as the new updates help new players...its making u sick.
Mr.ERO... u say its brainless game? ':D do u have brain....why did u mod this game...ofcourse ur relentless dumb ideas which made the tour the worst shit.read it u mad boy: topic13-3255.php
"I want to congratulate ManuTOO making this game, in my opinion he did a great job doing so and he still tries to make this game better for all of us.." 8-) 8-) 8-) u wrote that lol........... :applause: so WTF are u talking now.shut up ERO :whistle:
Richou,the biggest fool.....u say bashing it?did any one of u guys read agreement b4 accepting to play a game.i suppose not.
IF U LIKE GAME...PLAY IT....IF NOT LEAVE IT....critcising and making hungama shows how mad u are :annoyed: ...real bullshit :mrgreen:
TTennisfan....worthless idiot to talk about :wink: seriously he loves someone who hates Manuttoo lol :whistle: this fellow has got a mind which changes alternatively day by day lol.SEE THIS:
"Manutoo for genius and wisdom, you are the creator of this wonderful game and I hope you won't give up (the reason I didn't bough TE, I knew I'd retired this day, sorry) & Thank you." this is what he wrote in his retirement shit: topic13-2576.php LMAO ':D :wink: I dont think a genius turns into a idiot all of a sudden.ridiculous on how he writes all this :whistle:
KZ and Tog...well they r fair as i believe in them a bit....KZ,i actually saw Manuttoo do some modifications from suggestions...i kept some suggestions and he modified in new updates.so i feel he definitely checks all suggestions.so its not point u can be so rude on him.We have to thank him as he had given a wonderful time to play and enjoy.TOG seems to be right on his comment..poll wud be gud.but i think Manuttoo had done such thing(like poll) b4 doing TE2011 :roll:
All the poeple i see complaining had appreciated Manuttoo b4 but now all of a sudden,they r against it lol.a NEW ERA of winners in tournaments is coming soon.i like that...not always these boring fellas :twisted: however i wont play anymore with u guys :fear: i dont want to get mad with RLs and ERO's LAG Rule(a mad dumb idea of all time) :applause:
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Eronakold » 22 Aug 2010, 14:01

Ah well here we go again then, I'm indeed not going to make long posts about how you should change tiredness or whatever..
I bought the game so I expect to be able to play it without having to help the creator fix bugs or configure tiredness..
And yeah I'm really sure a person who posts like once a month about such matters (even if) and has like the lowest post rate of whole active TE is scaring the people away, maybe you should search the problem with yourself again instead of searching cheap excuses..
If you do really want to ban some "kind" of people like you say it, ban the Tennischampion "kind", I'm pretty sure he scares/annoys way more people than we do :D
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby K Z » 22 Aug 2010, 14:14

I'll write here my last point abt this subject !
ok , u might be right when u say that this game has attracted more and more players , but can u tell me how many know abt this forum ? most of them are noobs and would play any tennis game even if u give 'em a baseball bat and a soccer ball and u convince them that this is how tennis is played, so they don't really focus on the changes of the game .
but those who really know what's TE and play it regulary , are those who play the online tournies , and here http://tenniselbowtour.webs.com/Singles%20Race.htm u can go to check how many players played this year (they are around 250 if u are too lazy to check ), and u could also remark that a lot of 'em didn't play often ( abt 100-120 who play regulary )
All that to say that the quality of the game isn't necessarily the thing that let the n° of players increase , because if they knew how to complain , I'm sure they'd do it too ! but they play this game just because they don't know any other tennis game online .
I'm not saying that TE is not good , I'm just saying that there are some updates that we could do without .
Now ManuTOO u can dissect my msg to how many peaces u desire , here was my oppinion and it won't change

manutoo wrote:But don't worry, I'll make you right very soon, coz you just shown me your opinion is unworthy to be listened, as it's totally biased

lol as if I am gonna share anything else with u in the future xD
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Judaism » 22 Aug 2010, 14:25

I take it the phrase "the customer is always right" doesn't apply here. Manutoo, Managames is a small company. Surely listening to the praise of customers who are actually willing to buy your products would be a good thing. Another phrase you might want to heed is "You cannot fix what is not broken". If you've reached a peak build it would seem like common sense to stick with it. Sorry but I have been playing this game for a long time and the game does seem to have decreased in quality to a certain extent and it seems your customers (see Richou, Eronakold, Adner etc) are getting ticked off with these new builds. Ergo, going back to the peak build which in my opinion came out around I think January/February. I realise that since its a new game it might not be possible but thats just my opinion
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Mr.Schmith » 22 Aug 2010, 14:54

well manutoo u cant really make a game and expect people to be friendly every time, and i think why people are so mad about the small changes is that the game is so sensitive and it can ruin ur game completly after one little unnecessary update so maybe stop updating so much and let the game stay as it is for a while and gather it all for one important update with good features :fear:
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Tennischampion » 22 Aug 2010, 15:09

eronakold wrote:Ah well here we go again then, I'm indeed not going to make long posts about how you should change tiredness or whatever..
I bought the game so I expect to be able to play it without having to help the creator fix bugs or configure tiredness..
And yeah I'm really sure a person who posts like once a month about such matters (even if) and has like the lowest post rate of whole active TE is scaring the people away, maybe you should search the problem with yourself again instead of searching cheap excuses..
If you do really want to ban some "kind" of people like you say it, ban the Tennischampion "kind", I'm pretty sure he scares/annoys way more people than we do :D

tiredness.....who the hell was talking about that now :whistle: i have work to do.i m not a fool like u to sit and play all the time and talk non sense in msn 24x7 :whistle: :fear: :twisted: so i post rarely.lol ofcourse u got crazy and banned me for spamming(nvm i retired b4 the ban :mrgreen: ) So spamming may not come under low posting rate lol..... :blackeye: Well u bought the game right?So its ur problem to update it or not...U didnt got the brain to save patches and now u say its dumb...its ur fault fool :annoyed: there were updates before which didnt had major bugs...u shud have saved them on ur computer.anyways u talk differently everyday...the one u say great on that day,now u say it sucks.there is no point in ur posts XD :D well i annoy fellas who create stupid rules for online tournaments like LAG rule lol :whistle:
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Blacky » 22 Aug 2010, 15:20

Should I say something? Does my opinion count? Lets try.

First I completley agree with Richou's ban, it had to be done, its only right thing to do.
If he insults someone on any forum he would get banned. So why would it be any different here. Plus, he insults creator of the game, who invested like 10 000+ hours in this game on creator's site, so yea If Im manu I would ban him forever.

Second, as you all know I dont like KZ very much, and he again proved it that Im right, because he really really is talking nonsences non stop. A guess now its like a fashion to "hate" Manu, and he has to be part of it.

Third, altought I agree in some points with Manu, I do agree with players also. You are kind a stubborn, and it takes really a lot in order for you to accept our suggestions regarding ingame bugs. At the end you actually accept it, but as I said it takes you some time.
I told you about movement, other players also were telling you that (but it took some time before you implemented deacceleration or something), I told you about desy it took you a month before you actually believed that and change it.

Also there is one more thing that I dont like, its concerning updates. I really do think that you should be more tolerable to us who bought this game when implementing new updates. Example, we are in the middle of the Wimbledon, but you change several aspects of the game and we ended up screwed.

I do remember when you said to me that players who play tournaments are only minority. It was quite some time ago. But we are here, we bought a game, and we deserve some respect. So if you dont care about tournaments why do you have them on your site? As I see it, tournaments brought you many people, and now those people are turning against you because you dont pay much attention to them.

Fourth. I do respect your work, I think its a great game, brilliant simulation of tennis. I do like to see that you are constantly trying to improve and add new things to the game, and never quitting in doing that. However I dont like that I have to download new version every few weeks. Maybe you could sum up some changes and then place an update once a month, or once every two months.

A guess thats it, i forgot some things that I had to say, if I remember Ill post it

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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Eronakold » 22 Aug 2010, 15:48

Tennischampion wrote:tiredness.....who the hell was talking about that now :whistle: i have work to do.i m not a fool like u to sit and play all the time and talk non sense in msn 24x7 :whistle: :fear: :twisted: so i post rarely.lol ofcourse u got crazy and banned me for spamming(nvm i retired b4 the ban :mrgreen: ) So spamming may not come under low posting rate lol..... :blackeye: Well u bought the game right?So its ur problem to update it or not...U didnt got the brain to save patches and now u say its dumb...its ur fault fool :annoyed: there were updates before which didnt had major bugs...u shud have saved them on ur computer.anyways u talk differently everyday...the one u say great on that day,now u say it sucks.there is no point in ur posts XD :D well i annoy fellas who create stupid rules for online tournaments like LAG rule lol :whistle:


I dont play world tour at all and as u need the latest update to play online, you gotta take it however it comes..
I still think it's a good tennis game, I just called it brainless because of its many bugs and such..
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby K Z » 22 Aug 2010, 16:05

Blacky wrote:Second, as you all know I dont like KZ very much, and he again proved it that Im right, because he really really is talking nonsences non stop. A guess now its like a fashion to "hate" Manu, and he has to be part of it.

but wtf is BlackyMF talking abt , did anyone ask him ?
u're just an ass kisser , u repeated all the things we said in a smooth way , just to win players' symathy in one hand and ManuTOO's one in the other hand
u're just a pathetic and an hypocrite guy ! save ur posts for something else cause everything u said in ur novel , has already been said in the past
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Re: [Bashing the game, then insulting the author: Richou ban

Postby Blacky » 22 Aug 2010, 16:31

K Z wrote:but wtf is BlackyMF talking abt , did anyone ask him ?
u're just an ass kisser , u repeated all the things we said in a smooth way , just to win players' symathy in one hand and ManuTOO's one in the other hand
u're just a pathetic and an hypocrite guy ! save ur posts for something else cause everything u said in ur novel , has already been said in the past


Exactly!

I thought that you already got that I dont care what manu or other players think, specially you, I have nothing of it. All I want is to game to get better, with cool people and some order.
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