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Postby Stajus » 06 Apr 2014, 05:58

So, when are we getting a good old clean up of the gazillion doubles bugs?
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0c [Windows]

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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0c [Windows]

Postby Stajus » 11 Apr 2014, 13:19

Nigogu wrote:Stajus,
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Doubles has reached a point where you should aim to use various bugs during every single point and if you try to volley properly with b1 or b2 you cant link combinations of volleys without making errors :sweat: So people just do no shot volleys half of the time until they get a chance to spam the opponent's partner.

First of all partners are too stupid to use the 30-90 realistic mode scaling, 90% volleys isnt enough for them (we used to have a fair mode with 30-100%). Secondly, elite controls are bullshit in net battles, let's all just do no shots and spam partners...so skillful :fear: Lol, and I hit volley errors because I try to volley with b1 and b2 in reasonable situations but this goes out now because...oh, I should do a no button shot, I forgot :lol: Thirdly, the spin of 60-70% in singles is some kind of bug tennis, people using 200 cm players and rushing net...meanwhile just spinning moonballs that give them time to defend and waiting to spin a deep moonball down the line or an angled acceleration before rushing the net...Basically no winners from the baseline and this is how RG 2013 and USO 2013 have been won by the way. Moonball tennis.

In singles, after rushing the net with this buggy style they can hold b2 and release last moment which gives them again a safe no shot volley then approach the net very close before the opponent has time to hit the next passing and you cannot be passed anymore except by deep lobs. :roll:

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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0c [Windows]

Postby Serena Williams » 11 Apr 2014, 18:47

I'm no doubles expert but i've recently played a few matches and i agree with everything said here about both the singles and doubles. :D
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Re: Doubles issues

Postby E=mc2 » 12 Apr 2014, 06:50

Agreed about doubles. There are thousands of bugs in my cpu partner!
But i don't agree with him in singles view. Basically Stan wants to get rid of players like Nadalesque who are too good with spin....So he is trolling there!
Spin defenders!!! hmm ...all ball-bashing baseliners' biggest enemies. They just complain because they can't beat the defenders who use spin. Well one can call it as moon balls even if it comes at >90 kph at shoulder height(NOT AT SMASH HEIGHT WHICH I CALL AS MOON BALLS)??? Stan you should realize that Nadal also plays such shots in real tennis. You can call him a Moonballer but i think there is nothing wrong with it....It is NOT against the rules. There are ways to beat spin players just by playing clever tennis....
People who are complaining about spin in singles are just noobs who just hit bang bang bang balls with 0 spin, no skill of playing shots of variety ----> low life tennis :annoyed: Some players are just like Isner lol, just serve big and hit a winner next ball at 150kph+ ....and they enjoy this?! soooo boring :whistle:
In fact i enjoy watching Nadal's match. You see more variety of shots in his match 8-) than watching some boring Isner's match, which is just trolling with serve and ball bashing :annoyed:
Also i want to tell to all people who are delusional and don't know what really a moon ball means:
MOON BALL: A very high lob mixed into a baseline exchange, primarily used to change the tempo.<just google it if you think i am wrong lol>
So i don't think 60-70% spinners are moonballers because they are not playing high lobs ....it's just you can't beat them and you complain :twisted:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0c [Windows]

Postby Tene » 12 Apr 2014, 11:22

Stajus wrote:Doubles has reached a point where you should aim to use various bugs during every single point and if you try to volley properly with b1 or b2 you cant link combinations of volleys without making errors :sweat: So people just do no shot volleys half of the time until they get a chance to spam the opponent's partner.

I agree, it's like the game entirely depends on my CPU partner. I play better than all 4 players on court (normally most of the time) and even at net i am really good but it's my CPU partner who jumps into picture just to do non-sense ':D
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Re: Doubles issues

Postby Stajus » 12 Apr 2014, 13:12

Tene wrote:I agree, it's like the game entirely depends on my CPU partner. I play better than all 4 players on court (normally most of the time) and even at net i am really good but it's my CPU partner who jumps into picture just to do non-sense ':D


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Good comment about "jumping into picture"...I wish my partner would not touch any balls in the middle and instead leave them to me and just cover his side religiously :lol: He jumps into the middle and then gets spammed by the opponent human player :lol:

Also, when I return I noticed my partner stands 1 m from the net which is cool, but once I hit the return he tries to kiss the net...so he can receive winners or forced errors if the opponent at net just hits to his side...So boring :roll: Don't understand why he comes closer to the net AFTER I hit a return, literally kissing the net and then he can't do anything...In general partners start coming closer and closer to the net when they volley and of course this results in forced errors by being spammed.

Manu, please make partners volley from 1 m away from the net at all times. They should not move forward and closer to the net after a volley. This would fix a large majority of the issues. Also when the CPU partner does leave a bit of space between him and the net, he is prone to b1+up or acceleration + up into his feet -> partners hit this 10 metres out lol. They should be able to make this half volley somehow 8-)

E=mc2 wrote:Agreed about doubles. There are thousands of bugs in my cpu partner!
But i don't agree with him in singles view. Basically Stan wants to get rid of players like Nadalesque who are too good with spin....So he is trolling there!
Spin defenders!!! hmm ...all ball-bashing baseliners' biggest enemies. They just complain because they can't beat the defenders who use spin. Well one can call it as moon balls even if it comes at >90 kph at shoulder height(NOT AT SMASH HEIGHT WHICH I CALL AS MOON BALLS)??? Stan you should realize that Nadal also plays such shots in real tennis. You can call him a Moonballer but i think there is nothing wrong with it....It is NOT against the rules. There are ways to beat spin players just by playing clever tennis....
People who are complaining about spin in singles are just noobs who just hit bang bang bang balls with 0 spin, no skill of playing shots of variety ----> low life tennis :annoyed: Some players are just like Isner lol, just serve big and hit a winner next ball at 150kph+ ....and they enjoy this?! soooo boring :whistle:
In fact i enjoy watching Nadal's match. You see more variety of shots in his match 8-) than watching some boring Isner's match, which is just trolling with serve and ball bashing :annoyed:
Also i want to tell to all people who are delusional and don't know what really a moon ball means:
MOON BALL: A very high lob mixed into a baseline exchange, primarily used to change the tempo.<just google it if you think i am wrong lol>
So i don't think 60-70% spinners are moonballers because they are not playing high lobs ....it's just you can't beat them and you complain :twisted:


This incognito noob again...damn, first beat anyone in Top 10 then comment on others' level :lol:
You don't understand this game or real tennis and just spam the forum without ever playing, you are a nobody and should just shut up already :whistle:
If you understood tennis you would see why the tennis I described is impossible to see in real life. If you don't contribute anything to improve the gameplay and the realism of the game, please also stop writing some nonsense and commenting on which player beats which on the Tour like a 10 year old kid because this is irrelevant :roll:

60-80 topspin tennis is nonsense considering current settings and 2013, completely unrealistic and Nadal doesn't play even close to it. Heinrich and Voja play brilliantly with 25-30% topspin which closely resembles Nadal's game. Spinning 70% with a tall volleyer player and hitting 1-2 baseline winners and all the other points at net isn't tennis, it's simply abuse of the way the game is programmed and happens to work well. Buglord tennis. 25-30% topspin shots are similar to what Nadal plays, 70% topspin shots are moonballs which you don't understand of course.

Here is your realistic singles tennis attached. You will never ever see a match like this in real life. Ever. Nadalesque can't hit a winner from the baseline except when the opponent gets bored and gives a slice -> short angle acceleration. And this should win a Grand Slam? Lol, silly "Einstein" :lol:


Finally, no I'm not complaining because I can't beat this style...First of all, I'm currently not playing tournaments and don't care if I can't beat some players anyways :roll: Secondly, I never played vs Nadalesque. Thirdly, I'm not saying anything about Heinrich and Voja anyways because I can appreciate their exceptional movement and with 25-30 TS they can hit baseline winners and not just wait to rush the net and before that spin for 1 min. They are also equally great with low or 0 TS because their quality is in the movement, not the spin...spin just helps make harsher scores vs other guys on slow and bouncy surfaces. So yeah, I'm commenting because when I watched some dmos of this "champion" style I wanted to puke :aureola:

P.S. Manu, could you change the thread name to "Doubles and singles issues"? Thanks.
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Re: Doubles issues

Postby E=mc2 » 12 Apr 2014, 15:44

Stajus wrote:
This incognito noob again...damn, first beat anyone in Top 10 then comment on others' level :lol:
You don't understand this game or real tennis and just spam the forum without ever playing, you are a nobody and should just shut up already :whistle:
If you understood tennis you would see why the tennis I described is impossible to see in real life. If you don't contribute anything to improve the gameplay and the realism of the game, please also stop writing some nonsense and commenting on which player beats which on the Tour like a 10 year old kid because this is irrelevant :roll:

60-80 topspin tennis is nonsense considering current settings and 2013, completely unrealistic and Nadal doesn't play even close to it. Heinrich and Voja play brilliantly with 25-30% topspin which closely resembles Nadal's game. Spinning 70% with a tall volleyer player and hitting 1-2 baseline winners and all the other points at net isn't tennis, it's simply abuse of the way the game is programmed and happens to work well. Buglord tennis. 25-30% topspin shots are similar to what Nadal plays, 70% topspin shots are moonballs which you don't understand of course.

Here is your realistic singles tennis attached. You will never ever see a match like this in real life. Ever. Nadalesque can't hit a winner from the baseline except when the opponent gets bored and gives a slice -> short angle acceleration. And this should win a Grand Slam? Lol, silly "Einstein" :lol:


Finally, no I'm not complaining because I can't beat this style...First of all, I'm currently not playing tournaments and don't care if I can't beat some players anyways :roll: Secondly, I never played vs Nadalesque. Thirdly, I'm not saying anything about Heinrich and Voja anyways because I can appreciate their exceptional movement and with 25-30 TS they can hit baseline winners and not just wait to rush the net and before that spin for 1 min. They are also equally great with low or 0 TS because their quality is in the movement, not the spin...spin just helps make harsher scores vs other guys on slow and bouncy surfaces. So yeah, I'm commenting because when I watched some dmos of this "champion" style I wanted to puke :aureola:

P.S. Manu, could you change the thread name to "Doubles and singles issues"? Thanks.

Hahaha fool....why are you so desperate to know who i am? Get a grip! Only Nadalesque knows about me.....Well i have beaten all top players(lost many and won many times) too , so stfu! i don't need to play tour to prove you that I am a top player. I already told you that I had beaten you :whistle: Anyways i finished my tour life years ago just to be away from douche bags like you who are so egoistic to the core.... Just play Nadalesque and TALK....You think he is not a good player? Hmmmm he will open your eyes :wink: I am pretty sure you would have played him in practice matches just to be spanked 6-0 lol :lol: And you think you are "ALL ROUND GOAT"---->You show your records and things on tour to prove it?! :lol: There are many players who didn't play tour who are as good as you. Just because they had bad connection, doesn't mean you are GOAT lol :lol: Anyways the doubles titles are won by those who know how to exploit bugs...similar to you :D I am sure that a 10 year old can behave much better than you :twisted: Anyways keep dreaming that I am noob to this game and you are GOAT LOL :unsure:
"You are not complaining because You can't beat this style"
That's the biggest joke in whatever you wrote...We all know you just lie all the time.... :wink:
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Re: Doubles issues

Postby Stajus » 12 Apr 2014, 15:52

Boring Indian kid, nothing to contribute to gameplay updates except his usual spam chat :lol:
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Re: Doubles issues

Postby Tene » 12 Apr 2014, 16:09

Stajus wrote:
:annoyed:

Good comment about "jumping into picture"...I wish my partner would not touch any balls in the middle and instead leave them to me and just cover his side religiously :lol: He jumps into the middle and then gets spammed by the opponent human player :lol:

Also, when I return I noticed my partner stands 1 m from the net which is cool, but once I hit the return he tries to kiss the net...so he can receive winners or forced errors if the opponent at net just hits to his side...So boring :roll: Don't understand why he comes closer to the net AFTER I hit a return, literally kissing the net and then he can't do anything...In general partners start coming closer and closer to the net when they volley and of course this results in forced errors by being spammed.

Manu, please make partners volley from 1 m away from the net at all times. They should not move forward and closer to the net after a volley. This would fix a large majority of the issues. Also when the CPU partner does leave a bit of space between him and the net, he is prone to b1+up or acceleration + up into his feet -> partners hit this 10 metres out lol. They should be able to make this half volley somehow 8-)


Can't agree more. Sometimes i feel like I can win a doubles match without my partner on court. I am very good at net but my partner spoils the rally. He is an athletic jumper not a tennis player :withstupid:
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Re: Doubles issues

Postby E=mc2 » 12 Apr 2014, 16:16

Stajus wrote:Boring Indian kid, nothing to contribute to gameplay updates except his usual spam chat :lol:

Keep up with trolling, fool :wink: :aureola:
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Re: Doubles & Singles Issues

Postby manutoo » 13 Apr 2014, 03:48

A little reminder : the best to show me something that needs fixing is to provide a .dmo & tell me on what score to look the points (preferably at beginning of the match). General explanations are also good, but often they're not enough to pinpoint the exact situation that needs fixing (and I can't play the game for hours to figure out by myself what's wrong).
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0c [Windows]

Postby Guest » 15 Apr 2014, 07:15

Stajus wrote:Welcome to Buglord tennis where safe shots, moonballs and bugs are huge weapons :fear: :dance:

idc about doubles.its for sh*t players becos u have a cpu as partner which is not like real tennis.so for its sh*t :yes:
singles i think stajus is gay thats why he posts such silly issues ,this is becos he sucks at playing.only attacking is not tennis defending also comes in tennis and if u cant take it then shut the f*** up u annoying a**hole. for ur information nadal also plays moonballs like in the game.go and watch tennis and stop behaving as if u r a game expert u noob class player. now go and correct my english errors :lol:
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Re: Doubles & Singles Issues

Postby Stajus » 15 Apr 2014, 13:22

Only a mindless fool would compare Nadal's game to 80 TS + only net rush in TE. Not even close. Heinrich/Voja game resembles Nadal's and they use around 30 TS. You're a noob who doesn't play, can't win a game probably, and shouldn't even post because you don't even distinguish the Nadal style with a buggy gameplay that abuses the game's settings with almost 0 winners from the baseline. Nadal hits all his winners at the net? Noob "Guest" aka E=mc2 :lol: Like Henrietta said, for noobs like yourself this won't matter anyways so logically you don't understand anything :sweat:
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Re: Doubles & Singles Issues

Postby Algo » 15 Apr 2014, 13:54

And in fewer words: Nadal's game is not tennis either :lol:
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