Another modding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

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Another modding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby iopzzza » 23 Mar 2022, 01:18

Hello again, Manutoo. We are on way to making the atp tour and i wanted to ask a few things about the players stats.
For example on TE 2013 we all know that if u put 100 on speed you would watch ping-pong rallies through the end, which wasnt realistic enough. My goal is to make the players most comparable to real life, so i want to ask, over what skill (85? 90?) gameplay starts to get unrealistic? For example, Nadal will be one of the fastest players, obviously, i imagine him will be the highest speed and from there i will scale a bit down for each other player (yea all of the players in Players.ini). Karlovic for example (and Isner) will have greatest serves, but , again questions comes (considering we play it on pro 10) above what serve skill i shouldnt go, because it will become unrealistic? I want to ask this questions for all of the stats , if i am to be honest , but it will be too long. The idea behind all that works will be to create closest experience to real life tennis, so we have some long rallies (obviously between deffender types), some serve'n'volleys too and also decent amount of aces (just like in real life). Hope you understood, what i am talking about. Thanks , in advance :)
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Re: Another moding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby manutoo » 23 Mar 2022, 08:51

Hello,

Nadal at his best can likely get nearly 100% speed.

All skills make sense at 100%, and are still realistic enough. :)
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Re: Another moding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby MaxiReturns » 23 Mar 2022, 09:53

i think monfils is more likely a 100 and rafa maybe than a 95?
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Re: Another moding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby iopzzza » 23 Mar 2022, 14:31

manutoo wrote:Hello,

Nadal at his best can likely get nearly 100% speed.

All skills make sense at 100%, and are still realistic enough. :)


Wouldnt that make him extremely fast like it was on TE2013, meaning he will catch everything?
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Re: Another moding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby manutoo » 24 Mar 2022, 07:11

TE4 doesn't work like TE2013... :)
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Re: Another moding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby iopzzza » 27 Mar 2022, 02:01

So when doing the mod, i should consider also 100 serve speed is not Unrealistic and Overpowered? I can scale up from there (for the likes of Karlovic, Isner, Opelka)? And can i choose lets say 100 Forehand Power for a player like gonzalez and scale down from there? It wouldnt make him super overpowered and unrealistic? This question goes on for every stat to be honest :D

Also, can u give me some explanation of Reflexes skill, i cant find it in the TEM2 Documentation. (i know it seems pretty straightforward, but some skills are conected as u know for sure :D )
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Re: Another modding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby manutoo » 27 Mar 2022, 06:44

1) Yes, give 100% to the best player in that particular skill, and lower down from there for the other players.

2) Higher reflexes skill = lower reaction time.
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Re: Another modding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby iopzzza » 29 Mar 2022, 03:20

Sorry , if i am asking too much questions, but , in the other thread, you've said check Tennis Elbow 2013 documentation for modding players. Ok i've checked it, but something doesnt click.
You've wrote there that to set the skills to 60 (but where, in Players.ini?, or in the game?) , but for example i've chcked and there some players who have some skills over 60, for example Nastase has 68 backhand power, how to translate that in Tennis ELbow stats?
Lets say i want to make Nadal with 100 speed in the game, if i set his speed to 60 ( in Players.ini , how much is that in the Tennis Elbow 4 game? What number i will see, how to calculate it ? That questions goes for all other skills by the way. I have no clue how to calculate , because in Players.ini seems like you use some scale from 10 to 60 (if i read your Documentation)? But in tennis elbow its from 0 - 100 (the skills i mean). Also is that documentation up to date for Tennis Elbow 4? Because in Tennis Elbow 2013, 35 was the average skill (of top spin). By your words here in TE4 , its 50. So i am not sure if i can work by the documentation - How to mod Tennis Elbow 2013.
And last question. Considering rank per year, lets take 2 players. Nadal - has 48 forehand power (48 in the Players.ini). Is that 48 counted in his best year, or that is his average? Ive noticed Roddick has 70 for serve, which is very high, even in the documentation you wrote around 60 (not 70). Is that his absolute peak? Or in his peak years it can become even better?

Thanks, in advance and sorry if my question was too long. We just want to make the best mod we can :)
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Re: Another modding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby manutoo » 29 Mar 2022, 06:21

Read here => topic15-11805.php .
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Re: Another modding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby iopzzza » 01 Apr 2022, 02:18

What if i set NoNormalization to Take skills without any CHange? What will that mean? All skills remain the same throughout they're careers? Do Physical skills decline when Ai player gets older?
What happens with RankPerYear? Does it have any influence and is the player playing better in the speciffic year that he is ranked 1st , if NoNormalization is set to Take Skills without any change?
And in general how would that change the atp tour?
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Re: Another modding question. [Tuning Player Skills]

Postby manutoo » 01 Apr 2022, 06:16

If you activate NoNormalization, then the RankPerYear won't be used and the skills will be the same for all years, so it's not recommended to use it.
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