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[Mohamed]

If u can't beat Voja, don't come to cry here.. Defender isn't overpowered at all, it has a gud advantage on clay like the counter has a gud advantage on indoors and that's tennis and if defenders can hit some 152s , PBs can hit some 162s...

[Stajus]

But I agree that the short slice is really unrealistic...too easy to hit from any position, too short, often clips the net...such bullshit I think that shot should be removed or made A LOT harder to hit, but that won't affect Voja's results, obviously ...

[Oussama Hassad]

But I agree that the short slice is really unrealistic...too easy to hit from any position, too short, often clips the net...such bullshit I think that shot should be removed or made A LOT harder to hit, but that won't affect Voja's results, obviously ...

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[Marin]

This Tennis Elbow is so unrealistic that it is impossible to believe, hit the line itself, and to follow what can be the strongest opponent and drag him back even more, it is impossible in real tennis, and that another service will be stronger than the first?

[Florian]

Hey Manu, could you please tell me what the maximum speed is against a sliced ball normal lenght for a counter ? Cheers.

[manutoo]

Florian,
in best case scenario and with best skills (0% topspin, 100% power & counter), against a fast slice, for the normal acceleration, max speed = 134km/h .

[Florian]

That's pretty much depressing in my opinion, especially on clay ^^

[Stajus]

Not at all...slice is bad enough as it is DTL (and crosscourt slice has always been useless pretty much, top 10 players almost never use it)...often falls short so a short angled accel is good enough advantage and very easy to execute actually (too easy on slices??)...

But it also could be that "your movement is quite perfectible" judging on the latest happenings and scores Nothing to do with updates, not at all Hilarious stuff on this forum, but I guess the developer is all-knowing to make such comments

Manutoo, can you please tell me how the "quite perfectible" movement of mine which hasn't changed makes me lose to the guy above in Miami and Barca but then I beat him comfortably 6-4 6-2 in the last sets? Miami especially, such ridiculously overpowered counter...Barca I could attribute more to his amazing luck as well as counter advantages in long rallies.

Did his movement become bad suddenly? Or did your updates affect the game as usual but then you blame it on someone's "bad" movement?

I find the "your movement is quite perfectible" really quite hilarious and ridiculous, that is all...

Every update will slightly favour a certain style at the highest level, I guess that's hard for people to understand ...The main complaint of mine is that over the last few years PB/puncher never had that slight advantage. These styles get an extra 1-2 accels, a mediocre jump (counter jump is bigger), and a useless shoulder bonus that isn't applicable on a lot of the shots in bashing vs bashing rallies...so hitting a 162 kmh winner on a putaway ball is completely irrelevant...defenders can do the same (hit a winner) with 152 kmh and 30% spin...

Thus, I think PB/puncher need a more tangible advantage, which doesn't mean we'll be able to beat Voja and his great movement, but at least PB/puncher style will become more identifiable...now they're at the middle, without anything special, and a shoulder bonus that comes useful once a game (while counters can spam accels in every rally and defenders can spam better spins in every rally)...well, that's just nonsense...

[SPC]

That's pretty much depressing in my opinion, especially on clay ^^

So you are actually asking for more speed?

Yesterday i ran into a Counter player and me as a PB it was a nightmare for most of it, the only solution was to hit a slice DTL, and hit meduim paced shots to the middle and wait the opening, otherwise i was being kept on the run but the counter despite i was the one who was hitting the hard shots first. The counter finds the angles easier than PB or maybe was just my impression. Its amazing how early the can take the ball, too.

Once again i concur with Stajus, the cross court slice is so useless, even if it goes deep, you will get a winner in return.

[manutoo]

Stajus,
re-read the ChangeLog, I nerfed the Counter style in latest Builds...

Drink or write in the Forum ? Some obviously can't choose...

[Stajus]

Stajus,
re-read the ChangeLog, I nerfed the Counter style in latest Builds...

Drink or write in the Forum ? Some obviously can't choose...

I go to the gym regularly and eat healthy stuff, so you got the wrong person But, okay, if you are offering some vodka...I can indulge once a month

The point is...maybe you should play more online and reach a good level of movement before making funny comments...then, at that level, you would also see how much the updates change everything vs Top players...

Have a good day

[Nadi madi]

I go to the gym regularly and eat healthy stuff, so you got the wrong person But, okay, if you are offering some vodka...I can indulge once a month

The point is...maybe you should play more online and reach a good level of movement before making funny comments...then, at that level, you would also see how much the updates change everything vs Top players...

Have a good day

I don't think manutoo has so much time like some of the older people around here to play this game on a regular basis ,And he already tried to play online tours but his connection couldn't help him..., I am playing this game since last 2 years and it's improved very well but some people just can't say "Thanks" and keep crying on the forum 24/7.

P.S: Nice signature btw.

[Stajus]

Get a connection faster than 10 kbps, then your opinion might be of some importance...
RL vs MaRiO_, lagging like hell vs me...so you won by RL there even though you are lagging like hell...Shameless kid Allah sees that
I'm actually giving some similar points as Zeka and spencercarlos, so it's none of your business if I want to comment on the game, ofc I will

[Nadi madi]

Yea it's none of my business to comment on ur posts but it's ur business to quote every post for Florian and how nice of a 25 year old to act like a 5 year old making comments about Allah on a forum. Shameless addict.

[Stajus]

Yea it's none of my business to comment on ur posts but it's ur business to quote every post for Florian and how nice of a 25 year old to act like a 5 year old making comments about Allah on a forum. Shameless addict.

I don't care about religion...it's you who believes in that yet cheats with lag and wins by RL? Should lose by LR actually, lagger Manutoo should really organise separate tours for some South American and African laggers, no one cares to play in those connections...and it's not our fault that some of those people are too poor to afford a decent connection I will LR every single lagger/glitcher from now on, those aren't playable or enjoyable conditions. Good luck