Monte-Carlo Masters (official topic)

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Postby A-Rad » 24 Apr 2008, 21:41

I wouldnt call it topspin :lol:
Topspin is not this shit I am talking about so come on... you exactly know what I meant so dont play like you dont now... :roll: And you broke me with this lob cause once it kicked on the court I hit it in the bottom of the net... :roll:

doesnt matter now.

and I dont care if evbdy is using it - I am not.

anyway,
congratulations!!
very well done!!
good luck in your next round!!


btw, whats the point in playing all this tournaments, matches, ligues etc. if evbdy is only thinking how to get a new slice, 'topspin' or whatsoever... it's not fun anymore. It looks like nobody can win their matches playing just normal tennis. Its not a big deal to win 60 60 or 60 61 using loads of shots that cant even be returned.

well, nevermind.
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Postby Tom Paulman » 24 Apr 2008, 22:07

I don't think I try to act like I don't know what I'm talking about :) It's about the fast lob and I already mentioned it in the previous post.

The point I broke you was like this:
You hit a serve that was very slow, probably the fire 2 serve. I run forward to return it, did the forbidden lob and kept running forward to the net. You returned the lob with a regular shot (power shot I think) and I ended the rally with a volley. The point is that I didn't break you because of the lob. I was very close to the net, so you could have hit an agressive lob and most likely it would have been a winner.

Anyway, enough of this talk, noone has a proof anyway since the replays can't be saved. I hope I will never have to argue about a match again as it's all just a game and it should be played for fun.
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Postby S.Williamz » 24 Apr 2008, 22:22

I have a problem with the topspin too, I feel it's too overpowered compared to other shots, and it feels like a bug shot. I wish it was removed from the game. I never use that shot myself, unless I notice my opponent is using it, then I might use it a couple of times during a match. But I don't like it, and avoid using it.
I thought it was an okay shot, I thought the key to return it was with fire 2, but I have noticed that often the ball goes to the net even if I use fire 2 to return it! It's extremely annoying and I really don't have the motivation to figure out all the complex secrets and choreographs required to return these shots, lol, so I wish this shot was balanced out, and was as simple to return as all other shots.
I'm just using my match againts Bajko as an example, again I'm not claiming Bajko cheated, it was completely okay that he used that shot in our previous match but my tactic was to rush the net a few times in a game and stay back a few times, and I won points well for a while, then when he used the spinshot I couldn't win many points serve and volley because the ball went to the net no matter what I tried and what button I pushed. And that kind of destroyed my game. lol He could have won without that shot too definitely he was playing well but it really was annoying. I used it too about 4 times but since he didn't have problems returning it was useless. I have to give him credit for knowing how to return it, but as I said, this way the matches are centered around that shot and it's overpowered, some know how to return it, some don't, and it has an effect on the outcome of a match. Something needs to be done about it. I hate when these new kind of shots come out of nowhere and totally mess up all the skill I have gained in TE.
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Postby Tom Paulman » 24 Apr 2008, 22:31

OK Williamz, when I mentioned that I've seen a lot of players using this shot, you were one of the first who came to my mind, so it's quite surprising post from you to be honest.

Anyway, if the shot is removed or reduced in the next update, I wouldn't mind as I don't use it often. But so far I consider it the strongest weapon in the situation when your opponent serves & volleys.

And BTW I always managed to return it with fire 2.. when I did it, the ball never ended up in the net, so either you were unlucky or Bajko must have added some special effect to it.
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Postby S.Williamz » 24 Apr 2008, 22:37

Yes I believe I was one of the first players who used it, in fact, I was the first person I ever saw using it. I didn't see anyone using it, I figured it out myself. So I used it a lot in the beginning, but now, I never use it. Especially in tournaments, unless my opponent uses it. Sometimes in other matches than tournaments, I use it just for fun 1 or 2 times, but I really don't like it and wish it was removed so there is nothing surprising about my post. There are a lot of players I have played that can confirm I haven't used it in a long time.:D

I have noticed the problem of not being able to return it with fire 2 with other players as well...

I think it's especially bad to use the shot if you notice that your opponent hasn't got ANY clue how to return that shot, and almost ALWAYS hits it to the net, was that the case in your match against A-Rad? I know it's not my business but since you attacked me...
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Postby manutoo » 25 Apr 2008, 04:50

S.Williamz, you should be a bit less paranoid... Tom Paulman didn't attack you, he just stated he thought about you using this shot... :roll:
(and about too much paranoid, I don't mean only this post, but also many other posts all over the forum..! ;) )

About returning the top spin shot using B2... Does it go to the net coz the ball is too low when you hit it ?
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Postby S.Williamz » 25 Apr 2008, 05:36

manutoo wrote:S.Williamz, you should be a bit less paranoid... Tom Paulman didn't attack you, he just stated he thought about you using this shot... :roll:
(and about too much paranoid, I don't mean only this post, but also many other posts all over the forum..! ;) )

About returning the top spin shot using B2... Does it go to the net coz the ball is too low when you hit it ?


I don't know what I have done to deserve being called paranoid, I am not paranoid, I wish you could show me the posts where I'm acting paranoid lol thank you. I felt like Tompaulman attacked me as he implied I was lying in my post, which I found weird because I didn't even adress my post to him I just in general stated that I do not like the topspin shot.

I haven't paid much attention but yes it might have been too low...so if I take the ball earlier it will fix the problem?
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Postby Bajko » 25 Apr 2008, 12:39

I play lot with Krotekus and he return my top spin lob in 99%. Williams was nervous in our match and sometimes he pressed the wrong button...

P.S. Williams you never used it BIG LOL you beat me before this last match because you breaked me few times only because you used this shoot and now you call your shoot bug shoot nice really... :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is nothing new to me what are you doing now Serena... :lol:
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Postby S.Williamz » 25 Apr 2008, 16:37

Bajko wrote:I play lot with Krotekus and he return my top spin lob in 99%. Williams was nervous in our match and sometimes he pressed the wrong button...

P.S. Williams you never used it BIG LOL you beat me before this last match because you breaked me few times only because you used this shoot and now you call your shoot bug shoot nice really... :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is nothing new to me what are you doing now Serena... :lol:


Seriously Bajko what is wrong with you each post you write is always something negative trying make someone look bad...seriously if you actually took the time to READ my posts you'd notice that I'm not denying that I have used that shot in the past...seriously. Why would I try to deny I have used it? It's obviously an accepted shot. Read first properly and then go on to write your rants. Yeah and to me it looks like a bug shot but if it can be returned by taking the ball early and pressing fire 2 then I guess it's okay...

See manutoo this is why I have to act "paranoid" because some people do nothing but misunderstand my posts all the time because possibly language barrier and then attack me...it's really tiresome. It's just a game I can't understand why people take it so seriously and try to change scores of a match and call each others cheaters all the time and nitpick on every match played in the past telling what shots were used and blah blah blah... :lol:
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Postby Bajko » 25 Apr 2008, 18:58

Williams you have to READ my post! I said I play a lot with KROTEKUS and he never had problem only then when he press a wrong button so stop posting and shut up.
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Re: MonteCarlo Masters (official topic)

Postby rick-alex » 25 Apr 2008, 20:42

bajko df elena demevtieva: 6-2 6-1
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Postby S.Williamz » 25 Apr 2008, 22:25

Ok Bajko I'll shut up lol...but you had a "PS." directed at me...I didn't press the wrong button, I took the ball too late. I just played a bit and I didn't hit it to the net anymore when I took the ball earlier...so it's okay. I don't think there's anything wrong with the shot if it's possible to return consistently... :lol:

And Bajko you can stop being angry at me all the time I've said it many times you're the king of clay and I'm not trying to suggest otherwise...you'll kick my azz anytime :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Bajko » 25 Apr 2008, 22:44

:lol: Just be friends ha? :lol:
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Postby TTennisfan » 26 Apr 2008, 15:43

S.Williamz(1) def. Zozzy by W.O. I mean that we are saturday and we still in r16 So it is important, to play all q.f s.f and f. before monday! :o
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Postby TTennisfan » 26 Apr 2008, 15:44

Q. finals

S.Williamz (1) - Bajko
Tom Paulman(6) - A-Rad (3)
Ro.Federer(4) - Milos(5)
Marat Safin(2) - Aller Amélie!

S.Finals

Tom Paulman (6)- S.Williamz(1)
Ro.Federer(4) - Allez Amélie!

Finals

Allez Amélie! - S.Williamz(1)
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