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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Tennisdude » 05 Sep 2026, 01:36

Bro i did a testing and high stats rating baseliner nadal still kept losing against mediocre serve and volley player, volley player still op on net, nadal rarely breaks vollyier's serve, and the volley player rarely makes error on net its almost automatic when volley attacks on net, hopefully baseliner passing shot could improve
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Tennisdude » 05 Sep 2026, 03:07

I think the cpu is not smart enough whenever the volley player attacks the net the cpu baseliner go for slice directly to rushing volley player instead of going for blasted passing shot aiming for the line, this is one of the problem the reason cpu volley player easily gets points rushing to the net
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby manutoo » 05 Sep 2026, 06:13

Tennisdude,
the update has still not been released... :roll:

And I checked what you call "mediocre" : it's actually someone about as good as Nadal... :scratch:

Anyway, wait for the update. :yes:
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Tennisdude » 05 Sep 2026, 07:11

Oh sorry sir, i thought update already happened, btw the testing that i mentioned is i made nadal all 90+ on all stats as a baseliner and also kept his playstyle as a baseline but stil lost to serve and volley player who had only 80 stats, thank you agains sir looking forward to update 🫡
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby manutoo » 06 Sep 2026, 05:47

I checked your settings and you have set Settings -> Training Club -> Offline Skill Mode to Realistic, so all player skills are remapped, thus Nadal has less than 90% in his skills.
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Qindarka » 06 Sep 2026, 10:29

Doing some testing:

Nadal vs McEnroe

Nadal:
Forehand - (99, 38, 95)
Backhand - (89, 33, 86)
Return - 88
Passing - 100
Consistency - 38
Speed - 90

McEnroe:
Serve - (58, 92, 98)
Volley - (100, 99, 88, 100)
Consistency - 34
Speed - 90

I purposely crippled some stats:
Shot consistency by 60 - So players miss more often in a realistic way.
Overall consistency by 60 - To be honest, I'm not sure exactly what this does but I'm guessing it adds more variance to the players' level.
Serve Power by 20 - Or there will be too many unreturnables.
Speed by 10.

Both players on Master 10. On Free Mode.

Net winning percentage for McEnroe in Brackets:

Clay
1st - Nadal wins 6-3 6-1 (57%)
2nd - Nadal wins 6-3 6-1 (43%)
3rd - Nadal wins 7-5 6-1 (51%)
4th - Nadal wins 6-1 6-3 (38%)
5th - Nadal wins 6-3 6-0 (39%)
6th - Nadal wins 6-2 6-1 (55%)
7th - Nadal wins 6-3 6-1 (53%)
8th - Nadal wins 6-0 6-0 (34%)
9th - Nadal wins 6-1 6-0 (42%)
10th - Nadal wins 6-3 6-4 (49%)

Grass
1st - McEnroe wins 6-4 4-6 7-6(5) (66%)
2nd - McEnroe wins 6-4 3-6 6-3 (65%)
3rd - McEnroe wins 7-6(4) 7-6(4) (64%)
4th - Nadal wins 3-6 7-6(5) 6-4 (61%)
5th - McEnroe wins 7-6(4) 7-6(5) (70%)
6th - Nadal wins 4-6 6-2 6-3 (60%)
7th - McEnroe wins 4-6 6-4 6-3 (60%)
8th - McEnroe wins 6-2 6-3 (65%)
9th - Nadal wins 7-6(6) 6-7(1) 6-4 (59%)
10th - McEnroe wins 4-6 7-6(7) 6-4 (61%)

To be honest, despite some tiny gripes, I think it's currently working pretty well and is fairly realistic. I'm a little concerned the new update will make volleyers too weak. Keeping in mind, these simulations were done with groundstroke consistency already massively reduced, which should in theory benefit volleyers. Yet McEnroe was still obliterated on clay, and better yet not dominant on grass.
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby manutoo » 07 Sep 2026, 05:53

Qindarka,
actually, lowering the consistency may help doing better passing shots, as it makes the normal strike shorter, giving more angle to the passings.
Plus the important test is on hard where both players should be more or less equal.
Also the volleyer's opponent shouldn't be a Bulldog, as it's the best style to beat the volleyer. The best choice for balancing is the Power Baseliner, I think. :thinking:
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Tennisdude » 09 Sep 2026, 04:23

Finally ! Nadal bageled serve and volley opponenet for the first time in cpu vs cpu ! But i set the difficulty to incredible because i notice they are smarter on passing shot when on higher difficulty ! Thank you so much sir Manutoo, i have another request about copy pasting outfit cause i use rog ally handheld pc and its difficult to copy paste outfit when i copy paste one time and then copy paste another outfit you need to erase the parameter one by one, there is no one click delete hopefully next update this is possible so copy pasting many outfit will be easier and also if its possible to be able to use legendary court like australian open 2010-2015 court and us open 04 and 09 mod court that i downloaded in mod, im trying to select those court but dont appear on full career mode, the only court appears are the default ones, thank you so much sir, best game tennis ever !
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Tennisdude » 09 Sep 2026, 06:13

Qindarka, bro dont worry i watched cpu vs cpu last night us open finals federer vs djokovic and federer is also a serve and volley and he won the match 2 sets djoko only won 1 set but its a tight match 3 swt of tie break, federer got peppered in 2nd set he was down sometthing like 4-1 but made a comeback and won the set, its like watching a real match last night its awesome and its on incredible difficulty btw, and i watch cpu vs cpu inside full career mode
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby manutoo » 09 Sep 2026, 07:18

Tennisdude,
1) I'm glad you enjoy the change. :)

2) you cannot use CTRL+A on Rog Ally ? I won't change that, because it's useful to manually edit the code.

3) Maybe read that => topic60-38581.php?start=0&hilit=stadium+selection .

Note : open a new topic for your new requests next time.
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Tennisdude » 09 Sep 2026, 12:04

Hi sir Manutoo, Ctrl + a on my rog ally control dont work, but when i use external keyboard its working, do you know how to fix this so i dont need to use external keyboard ?
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby manutoo » 10 Sep 2026, 05:30

Sorry, I have no idea, I don't have one.
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Re: Cpu vs cpu [Volleyer is OP]

Postby Tennisdude » 05 Oct 2026, 07:33

Hi sir Manuto hopefully on next update you can add australian open 2012 3d photo realistic court and us open 2009 3d photo realistic court that can be used in full career mode, the default courts are mostly new gen court hopefully you can add the older ones thank you so much
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