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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby titi60 » 17 Feb 2020, 13:30

Manu has the budget to do that!
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and you ask him that !!

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A little serious!

In addition with the talented TE community, no need for expensive readiness

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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby juanabolche » 17 Feb 2020, 21:07

I like the game and I have pre-purchased TE 4 to support its development.

However, development is clearly delayed and nothing seems to indicate that times will accelerate soon.

In my opinion, this will unfortunately generate that at the time of its launch it already looks graphically outdated and can hardly compete with other obvious market alternatives, which may even bring out a new version for when TE 4 sees the light.

The logic of video games seems to indicate the need to partner with developing companies, even if they are not the bigger in the market, or at least with other workers and entrepreneurs in the field. This would allow a faster production, as well as publicity and insertion of the game that allows a greater diffusion of the same.

In the current state, it has been impossible for me to convince friends to pre-purchase the game and support the project, and I've seen during this month how many bought the one that came out recently and are playing it a lot, despite its limitations.
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby manutoo » 18 Feb 2020, 10:10

juanabolche,
read here : viewtopic.php?p=252097#p252097 .

And I'll add : TE4 was never destined to be graphically in par with recent games. TE2013 was visually in par with 2003~2005 games. For TE4, I said for the visual quality I was aiming at something like Top Spin 3 (released in 2008) or maybe Top Spin 4 (2011), but with PBR rendering technic (common in games since ~2015). So TE4 will be more in par with 2013~2015 games. And it will still be mostly destined to real-life tennis fans. People putting visuals before simulation gameplay will never be much interested in TE. :blackeye:
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby manutoo » 18 Feb 2020, 11:44

titi60,
m'enfin... ':D
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby titi60 » 18 Feb 2020, 12:45

@Manu ,
I'm joking of course

I totally agree with this, graphics are not everything!
And when you see the competition at the moment, I don't worry about TE 4
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby yiph2 » 18 Feb 2020, 14:51

manutoo wrote:juanabolche,
read here : viewtopic.php?p=252097#p252097 .

And I'll add : TE4 was never destined to be graphically in par with recent games. TE2013 was visually in par with 2003~2005 games. For TE4, I said for the visual quality I was aiming at something like Top Spin 3 (released in 2008) or maybe Top Spin 4 (2011), but with PBR rendering technic (common in games since ~2015). So TE4 will be more in par with 2013~2015 games. And it will still be mostly destined to real-life tennis fans. People putting visuals before simulation gameplay will never be much interested in TE. :blackeye:

hey manutoo

will there be a tennis game in the future with current graphics quality? :whistle:
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby manutoo » 19 Feb 2020, 06:50

yiph2,
I don't have much divination powers, but as it seems tennis games don't sell very well in a general way, it's unlikely for one to get really big funding like current AAA games... :fear:
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby Mingus » 26 Feb 2020, 13:54

Except nadal (now always play with top spin) all players perform a different movement to rewalize a top spin hit. Could you include a different animation for hits with top spin?
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Postby T-Jackson » 26 Feb 2020, 15:07

Im not sure if this has been mentioned before ,but i really would like to see the play styles be more balanced. Right now, some styles *cough*Defender*cough* are way overpowered, and some styles such as Power Baseliner have been marginalized to oddities. Styles like Puncher and Varied excist just in the description since literally no one actually uses them to play.
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby manutoo » 27 Feb 2020, 09:10

Mingus,
would you have a video showing such kind of difference ? I wonder if you're referring to the little wrist movement some players do when they do a short passing shot, or maybe some slower defensive shot.

T-Jackson,
once the online will be in place, feedback about balance will be very welcome. :yes: (ie: I can't balance stuff if they people don't tell me what is overpowered or underpowered ;) )
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby Mingus » 27 Feb 2020, 13:59

manutoo wrote:Mingus,
would you have a video showing such kind of difference ? I wonder if you're referring to the little wrist movement some players do when they do a short passing shot, or maybe some slower defensive shot.


Yes! Especially when they do a passing shot You can see a example in this video ( in 0:10, 0:30 and 0:35):

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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby manutoo » 02 Mar 2020, 18:36

Mingus,
ok, so like for most animation relating things, there's no plan about this specific point, but it's probably something I could at least do as an option in the engine so the Modders could create such anims. :)
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby Martin2001 » 08 Mar 2020, 13:23

Also the volleys weren't at all human-like in tennis elbow 2013.. I would expect at least like 2 animations for smash(one that just smashes, and one that waits for the bounce or something+a bonus could be added, the thing that Llodra did, misses the smash on purpose to play a dropshot), 2 animations for backhand smash, the usual one that everyone does like fed, and the one whem Fed lobbed someone from a backhand smash, a couple of net play animations as in the backhand slicey volley+players trying to reach the ball on the net and either failing or catching it, and ofc the drive volleys(regular forehand volleys just have an animation of pushing the ball, so yeah, the drive ones).
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby victorbicudo1 » 22 Mar 2020, 06:06

Will you allow different animations for different serves? A kick serve motion is slightly different than a flat one's.
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Re: [TE4] Post your Ideas & Suggestions here !

Postby manutoo » 22 Mar 2020, 08:45

victorbicudo1,
for the part of the animation after the hit, it's possible. Before, it's complicated because the user can decide at any time how to do his serve spin.
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