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About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby S.Williamz » 24 May 2009, 21:12

This is just my opinion, so if you are a fan of these shots please write your opinion!!!!!

Some players are using the Nadal shot as their main shot at the moment in online games, and they also use the dropshot with 100 or so points in it. I just find the overuse of both of these shots quite ridiculous. They are both overpowered in my opinion, especially the dropshot. The Nadal shot, while it's possible to return it rather easily, somehow makes it very hard to aim and time your shots well enough to cause problems for you opponent. When your opponent constantly hits it it makes you feel like your players feet sort of entangle more and more as the rally goes on, very effectively making you passive. Ok, perhaps I haven't had enough practice against it, but this is how I feel at the moment.
The constant use of the Nadal shot isn't nearly as bad as the use of the dropshot at around 100 points. It is way too difficult to catch these kind of dropshots imo. The opponent doesn't really even have to set up the dropshot, they can hit dropshot winners even if the other player is only slighty badly positioned.
I haven't tested the Nadal shot on faster surfaces, but I imagine it's less of a problem there due to the multiple buttons needed to hit it, but it's really annoying on slow surfaces, let alone ridiculously unrealistic. And I only mean the constant use of it. The main issue is the dropshot though, I wish it could be tweaked a little, just so that it would be more balanced.
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby Togtdyalttai » 24 May 2009, 21:19

I think what S.Williamz means by the "Nadal shot" is not the Nadal shot but the slice acceleration shot. This shot is very annoying and should be negated if at all possible. The dropshot is similar: it's way too easy to play a dropshot and hit a winner with it and there's not enough risk involved in it.
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby S.Williamz » 24 May 2009, 21:28

I do mean the curving Nadal shot actually...but hey, that slice acceleration it annoying too! But it has been talked about and apparently it cannot be removed so...
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby Togtdyalttai » 24 May 2009, 21:52

Oh, well I don't think the Nadal shot's annoying at all. :|
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby S.Williamz » 24 May 2009, 22:15

Well I probably need more practice against it...lol. Anyway the dropshot I think needs tweaking.
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby adner » 24 May 2009, 22:19

I don't have troubles returning Nadal shots either. They're even kind enough to get me better-positioned when I'm running to get to them! :dance: Concerning the dropshot, it's not really a shot that should be tweaked. Cautious players can come to the net and hit a lob, acceleration, dropshot or a stop volley off it. I have lots of points in my dropshot skill, and still I don't really get to win many points thanks to it, even against the extra-defending players. Having 100 in dropshots makes you cut the other skills like lob, serve or groundstrokes.

However, I can't see how can you complain about these shots if you can easily beat anyone using them anyways :fear:
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby Algo » 24 May 2009, 22:23

The Nadal shot is just like anyother shot on the game, nothing special for me
The drop shot is a bit weird though, I hit one that went above my opponent's head :bounce: (I use 0 at it). I don't think is a really hard shot to get but maybe it's altitude could be tweaked a bit(just a few cms) at low skill
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby S.Williamz » 24 May 2009, 22:26

Adner I can't beat these player easily, and when they use the dropshot so well, it gives them a huge advantage. You obviously haven't played against someone who really takes all out of the dropshot if you think you have no problems returning it. I just think the dropshot at 100 or so sticks out like a sore thumb from the rest of the game, it's so unbalanced.
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby Leena » 24 May 2009, 22:39

I think the opposite about the Nadal strike. If I have preview on, it gives me no trouble whatsoever. And it randomly goes long on occasion, so I don't even use it anymore.

Drop shots... they are a little too easy to pull off, but I think they're realistic. I've played against people who are quite good at them, and I can run down nearly all of them. And I'm usually well behind the baseline. It does get annoying when some use them constantly as a play... because it's difficult to control the ball after a drop shot, and some will always use the unrealistic volley lob following that.

I do think drop volleys are a problem, though. They're tough to get back, even if you're well inside the court. It's just that there's so few players that have the volley skills to regularly pull it off.
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby Santiago92 » 24 May 2009, 22:43

I'm agree with Leena, and if you don't center perfect the ball when you want to hit a drop volley, it's very very difficult, that's the reason because almost nobody use it.
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby S.Williamz » 24 May 2009, 22:47

Yeah I don't think the drop volley is a problem, even though it's nearly impossible to get back, it's also so hard to hit that it's not too powerful...but the regular dropshot at 100 is! I really do not want to believe I am the only one who sucks so bad at returning it that my opponents have around 20 dropshot winners per set...lol
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby ahmedcoolio » 24 May 2009, 22:59

Well the so called " Nadal shot" is fine and the dropshots as well.If someone uses their stats to put them on dropshots, so be it.Everyone has a plus point .
The only problem i have is with the Slice acceleration shot because that shot doesnt exist.I also use it sometimes when the player can't handle it but still it's not a realistic shot.

Well if someone can't handle drop shots and nadal shots then they better practice more.No other way.Practice makes a man perfect lol :D They both are realistic shots .So no need of tweaking or whatever :roll:
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby S.Williamz » 24 May 2009, 23:02

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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby S.Williamz » 24 May 2009, 23:12

I just dont think it's a fun(or realistic) game mechanic when you can hit a great dropshot from almost anywhere on the court...and it will be boring if everyone starts using it a lot, it changes the whole game, for the worse imo. But I will put 100 to my dropshot and if everyone returns them with ease and I don't get any free points then I will eat my words. lol
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Re: About the"Nadal shot" and dropshot

Postby manutoo » 25 May 2009, 06:13

The bounce of the Nadal shot will be altered for next update (coz it's same physics than the Twisted Kicked Serve).

About the drop shop, I played against 1 guy who was very good at it, always being able to send it just a few centimeters away from the corridor lines, and I could almost always hit the ball, and regularly win the point (~50% of times, depending of different factors), so I think it's well balanced...
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