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Postby testo » 16 Jun 2013, 11:39

Hi,

Here are some pts to improve in TE online Games

1- too much balls on line. Look real ATP matchs, you will never see as much as in TE ! Idem for serve : some players succeed to serve exactly on the line both side. Never see that in real...

2- too easy to catch all balls when you play far the baseline. and easy to make same deep and accelerated ball at this place. TOTALLY illogical because 5m behind the line, you need really more power and precision to hit deep and quick balls... this is the most irrealist part in TE

3 - some players hit lobs even if you are on your baseline simply because the return is hard. Could you correct it Manu ? same pb on balls on baseline, even if you are 3m behind the line and well placed. The return is very often out

Thx

Seb
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Re: Improvments

Postby Algo » 16 Jun 2013, 16:57

We don't have much to do with that. Moving it to Tennis Elbow.
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Re: Improvments

Postby testo » 16 Jun 2013, 17:19

In fact it is not exactly a TE pb but online TE pb.

I meet these pbs and situations only in online tournaments, not vs CPu
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Re: Improvments

Postby BlackyM » 16 Jun 2013, 17:32

making lobs available when opponent is on baseline will ruin game completely...I suggest you to play TE 06 against me...and Ill show you...its completely pointless

I think that game needs to be faster. Not because it will suit me, as I suck really badly at this point...but because even before, when everything was 100%, winner was very hard to make, now its quite impossible to make a winner.

I just don't understand why such a change was introduced in a first place...a guess it makes people adaptation quicker and easier to Online competitive play...but that should be hard thing to do, not an easy thing to do.

There is no point of making it easier for everyone non stop, because actual good players are losing their advantage and game becomes boring. I can't hit a decent shot now, maybe because I'm not used to this slow gameplay now, but more probably because of settings, even when I hit clear forehand/backhand in a corners, my opponent 2000+ elo, does not even have problems to return it back.

Once I master movement again, I will concede 0 winners per match.


In other words, your improvements, are not really improvements. They will make game even slower, and it will be even easier for baseliner return everything.


I dont think that every single player in game should be able to play Nadal style...Nadal style of play was available even when everything was 100% (except serve), only best players could play like that, and you had to practice a lot. Now even when you start playing, with no experience at all, in a few days you can master movement with ease.

Remember Mr. Schmit for example, that guy was brutal, one of a kind, now, almost everyone can play like he did, at that time, no one could!
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Re: Improvments

Postby testo » 16 Jun 2013, 17:51

i have never said that about lobs !! you said exactly what i want to explain ! playing lobs when nobody is at net is stupid and often force error on return !

i don't ask a slower play but more difficulties for players far behind their baseline
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Re: Improvments

Postby BlackyM » 16 Jun 2013, 18:06

But It will result in more slower play...they won't stop being behind the baseline...they will just continue catching everything, even thought they return it badly. And returning those shots badly, can often be good thing for them, as their opponents will have to position themselves more inside the court and will often be easier to manipulate them.

I loved before, when my shots go weird, as that was huge chance for me to counter next attack or take over initiative in the point.


You know that on 100% skills, I had points against top players that were over 80+ shots, there really was no big trouble to return any attack, even thought speed was 30% faster than now. No matter how bad you were returning during a point, you were always able to caught the balls and put them back. If you knew what you're doing.

There really is no need to constantly optimizing every little thing to get a balance...

It is simple...
I would make problems of TE right now in 2 points.

1. Speed
2. Speed of the Ball

1. Make players slower...eg 80-85%
2. Let FH/BH on 100%

Anyone who would complain it would be too fast, doesn't really know how to play!

Now conditions are to balloon like...even accelerations with 0 top spin, go in big arcs...so there is no real feeling when you smash the ball on the line that you actually made a good shot

Every thing now is more Nadal - Djokovic alike...without need to even practice

Game should aim that their own best players emerge from the users, not that they all look like Nadal - Djokovic. Those who want that can play World Tour
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Re: Improvments

Postby manutoo » 17 Jun 2013, 10:39

BlackyM,
in the past, the Tour was played with Simulation controls & Tiredness off ; now, it's Elites + Tiredness on, both help greatly to limit the extra long rallies.
If you get some matches with many 80+ rallies, then send me the .Dmo, I'll check them.
Also, Elite isn't exactly newbie friendly when their opponent is an experienced & skilled player.
You still need a lot of practice to beat the top players, you just need (a bit) less to avoid the bagels, so that doesn't change much the results, but the trip is more pleasant for the newcomers.
A bit less game speed also means that people will less reflexes still get a chance to do some stuff ; reflexes can't be training much even if you practice a lot...

seb,
3- with practice & some reflexes, you should be able to smash the lobs & win the point (or at least take advantage in it).
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