adner wrote: Yeah, Florian surely doesn't complain about his own magical volleys(which are actually much harder to return than short slice) or endless accelerations(since he's so eager to compare TE to real tennis...).
Stajus wrote:I find it funny you supported this a few weeks ago, and now you're complaining about it...On the other hand, I've always said the unlimited accelerations concept is complete BS (and I still think it must be removed) I'm loving this discussion...and I'm loving how people change their stance depending on the style they use.
About Florian's volleys...I can pass him sometimes with nice accels, but when I don't have any accels left it is completely unfair...he can reach the net and then I am forced to fluke out some pts with short shots and joining him in ping pong (no way to pass against that jump without an acceleration shot remaining) Why don't you mention that, Flo?
My 2 cents
P.S. The counter shots aren't slow, don't try that BS...vamos rafa troubled me a lot the other night in all 3 sets we've played and I kept a very good level (he bossed me in the majority of the rallies, again I wouldn't be able to do much without running like a dog ), idk why you didn't trouble me as much...probably because you faked or sucked a lot
Eronakold wrote:I just hope manu finally realises now that everyone who talks about their own style/shots just tries to tune the game to how it suits them most, they want to keep their op advantages or their op favorite shots etc etc.. No one that posts here cares about the game being realistic It's just about them being able to win an extra match. It's rather obvious that someone who is talking about his own style or favorite shot isnt neutral.
Cesc Fabregas wrote:Absoultely true,i play with him...first 2-3 shots are incredible 160 km some times..but after that too slow shot,very hard to hit winner -.-
Stajus wrote:Lol, 160 kmh is very rare...in general the averages matter, and they aren't high enough for PB/puncher vs counter acceleration spammers...especially as they can spam unlimited accels and not just 7-8-9 times. Disgustingly overpowered style (much more than defender actually if we consider what each style gets), seeing that they also get a big net jump (bigger than most styles wtf ), ability to hit earlier aggressive shots, and the ability to defend very deep fast balls with b1 and get good depth and extra 3-5 kmh compared to someone without enough pts to have 100% counter
Also, I've noticed that you cannot beat any good counter player without a short crosscourt acceleration, it's like mandatory to be able to win, and so is net often but perhaps with PB and a lot of accels and 0 net it is doable from my experience (without net, not without angles) Ridiculous Although I use short angles, this should not be 100% necessary to have a chance to win...good deep solid hitting on the lines should be sufficient but it isn't due to the limited accelerations and their unlimited ones. Counter needs very big reductions obviously and removal of the unlimited accelerations and huge net jumps...these small changes of late aren't doing much Another example from Barca, many times I could defend quite a few accels with spins and b1s (and I had no accels remaining), but ofc then the shameless people come to the net as expected, utilising every flaw perfectly (big net jump flaw)...
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