Three questions about playing matches.

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Three questions about playing matches.

Postby Curtis » 30 Mar 2013, 11:26

1) When is it worthwhile to take the malus and change your style for a match? As an example, I have a couple of players who are Defenders. Both of them are 60-65% in their service, return and rally skills, and 40-45% in their volley skills and special shots (topspin 35%). They frequently run into other Defenders who are 80-90% for service, return and rally, but only 0-15% in volley skills.

Since they are better than my girls in what is supposed to be our specialty, my thought was that on fast surfaces (grass and the three indoor) I might try switching to Volleyer, but the 20% malus has frightened me too much. How do I know when is the right time to abandon my default style?

2) Based on a very small sample size, it seems to me that doubles teams seem to play better the closer their styles are to each other. I had a Varied and a Counter paired off, and they rose to number 1 in the world. I had another team made up of the two Defenders mentioned above, and they made it to number 35 by the end of the Australian Open in the third year of the campaign. Since the Counter had nearly the same singles ranking as one the the Defenders, both of whom were much worse ranked than the other Defender or the Varied player, I mixed them up. The new teams (Varied/Defender and Counter/Defender) both started losing in the second rounds of their tournaments. When I put them back the way they were originally, they started winning again.

Have other players noticed this, or am I misinterpreting?

3) Are any particular styles advantageous for doubles play? I read a book about tennis written back around 1950 by Bill Tilden. He felt that, regardless of your normal style of play, when you play doubles you should adhere strictly to the serve-and-volley game (unless it's mixed doubles, in which case the man should be a Volleyer while the woman plays Defender). I remember way back in my first game of TEM (version 1.c) I tried pairing Volleyers with Defenders and Power Baseliners, but I don't remember it being very successful.
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Re: Three questions about playing matches.

Postby Rob4590 » 30 Mar 2013, 13:03

Re doubles - most of the specialist doubles players are serve / volleyers in the game (the Bryans / Knowles etc) - so that would indicate that is probably the best style for doubles
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Re: Three questions about playing matches.

Postby Curtis » 30 Mar 2013, 13:20

Hi Rob. That was good advice. I just checked the WTA doubles ranking list, and the five best-ranked doubles specialists are also all Volleyers. I now consider question 3 to have been satisfactorily answered.

I guess my new question is how this ended up in 'Bug Reports' instead of the general forum. If Manutoo wants to move it, I encourage him to.
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Re: Three questions about playing matches.

Postby manutoo » 31 Mar 2013, 04:38

Curtis,
1- a 20% handicap will likely never be worthwhile, except if you got a defender with very low rally skill & high service + net skills ; changing style should work more for PowerBaseline, to Defender on Clay, and Varied or Volleyer on fast courts, depending if they have the required skills for these different styles

2- no, this doesn't have any influence... When playing in doubles, every style other than the volleyer play in varied style, thus uses the net skills more & the rally skills less

3- yup, volley is best doubles style
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