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Postby Heinrich von Westphalen » 03 Mar 2014, 08:59

ManuTOO,
I just want to suggest to integrate beside realistic, free and fair mode an option to set tour mode which includes

  • realistic mode settings (incl. previews),
  • a restiction of top spin by half (e.g 80% equals 40% at tour),
  • and (not sure if this is good) a decrease of backhand skills to ca. 85 to force more dynamic in matches.

Kind regards,
Heinrich von Westphalen.
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Re: tour mode

Postby n 201 » 04 Mar 2014, 09:02

lol i would like to see a mode where we can change stats during the match. well i know this sounds unfair for few players. but in reality, atp players do change their style of game by trying volleying/ playing with power etc.,. why not have that in game. i know its not fair to change whole stats but there can be certain limits provided for those changes like a 70 forehand guy increase it up to 90(limits can be between + or - 20% of original stat) and decrease the other relative parameters :D
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Re: tour mode

Postby Dasp » 08 Mar 2014, 02:57

n 201 wrote:lol i would like to see a mode where we can change stats during the match. well i know this sounds unfair for few players. but in reality, atp players do change their style of game by trying volleying/ playing with power etc.,. why not have that in game. i know its not fair to change whole stats but there can be certain limits provided for those changes like a 70 forehand guy increase it up to 90(limits can be between + or - 20% of original stat) and decrease the other relative parameters :D

Players in real life dont learn how to play new styles in the moment they need, they practice alot so what ur saying doenst work.. what u have to do is change ur players stats so it is enought well rounded so u can go from playing at baseline to serve and volley or defender or wtvr during a match
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Re: tour mode

Postby n 201 » 09 Mar 2014, 16:30

Dasp wrote:Players in real life dont learn how to play new styles in the moment they need, they practice alot so what ur saying doenst work.. what u have to do is change ur players stats so it is enought well rounded so u can go from playing at baseline to serve and volley or defender or wtvr during a match

pfffffff...did u even read my complete post? i said + or - 20% variation. so that is clearly realistic. Do u think players never change styles during match? then u have very little tennis experience. yeah, its true that a person cannot complete style of play during match but he can change it to some extent which can make a huge difference in winning the match. player who don't practice cannot play right shots no matter if he changes stats. a player with more complete technique can change his style during the match depending on situation although its not too big of a change but as i say "TO SOME EXTENT HE CAN". Roger Federer is the best example of trying many things during the match when he is trailing in the match. He somehow finds the right style to beat his opponent by trying new things if he lost a set or so. A great technician :yes:
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Re: tour mode

Postby Dasp » 10 Mar 2014, 18:01

n 201 wrote:pfffffff...did u even read my complete post? i said + or - 20% variation. so that is clearly realistic. Do u think players never change styles during match? then u have very little tennis experience. yeah, its true that a person cannot complete style of play during match but he can change it to some extent which can make a huge difference in winning the match. player who don't practice cannot play right shots no matter if he changes stats. a player with more complete technique can change his style during the match depending on situation although its not too big of a change but as i say "TO SOME EXTENT HE CAN". Roger Federer is the best example of trying many things during the match when he is trailing in the match. He somehow finds the right style to beat his opponent by trying new things if he lost a set or so. A great technician :yes:

But what u are talking about is changing tactics it is not improvement of of stats, players in real life dont improve there stats during a match.. And since u spoke about Federer, and if what u are talking about is what really happens in real life he would do this: Match vs Nadal he starts with normal stats(lets imagine in this case that he has a 70% backhand) but Nadal starts destroying his backhand so he goes in to the "menus", and takes 20% of his volley and puts it on backhand. Now Federer has an 90% backhand which is awesome and Nadal forehand spin doesnt work anymore, awesome 8-)
Of course this is an absurd, people cant do that, if ur forehand, backhand,serve, volley is weak during a match it wont improve with the course of it.. and like i said in the other message is, u have to find some stats that make u able to change ur tactics during a match, for example: if u put 90% on both back and forehand, 50/60% on volley, or even 20/30% in spin, u can play in baseline if u need, u can go to net and be a great volleyer and even be a good defender all in the same match..
Chosing the stats is what it makes u able to change ur style of play during the match
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Re: tour mode

Postby n 201 » 11 Mar 2014, 07:43

Dasp wrote:But what u are talking about is changing tactics it is not improvement of of stats, players in real life dont improve there stats during a match.. And since u spoke about Federer, and if what u are talking about is what really happens in real life he would do this: Match vs Nadal he starts with normal stats(lets imagine in this case that he has a 70% backhand) but Nadal starts destroying his backhand so he goes in to the "menus", and takes 20% of his volley and puts it on backhand. Now Federer has an 90% backhand which is awesome and Nadal forehand spin doesnt work anymore, awesome 8-)
Of course this is an absurd, people cant do that, if ur forehand, backhand,serve, volley is weak during a match it wont improve with the course of it.. and like i said in the other message is, u have to find some stats that make u able to change ur tactics during a match, for example: if u put 90% on both back and forehand, 50/60% on volley, or even 20/30% in spin, u can play in baseline if u need, u can go to net and be a great volleyer and even be a good defender all in the same match..
Chosing the stats is what it makes u able to change ur style of play during the match

dude.... No federer wouldn't destroy Nadal if he had 20% extra power in his backhand LOL. It might make Nadal to defend harder but also increases the risk of hitting errors for federer. Federer tried it many times by hitting very powerful shots. Power is not a big deal for nadal. It's dictating his game is the biggest problem. If someone dictates Nadal's groundstrokes by catching them early on the rise, thats what destroys nadal. Remember nole normally catches ball very early on the rise and thats how he gets nadal. It's not the 20% extra power. I said it's changing stats and yeah that is right. Well u can't change volleyer/baseliner/defender/etc. styles in the match, only change few stats by 20%, not really a big deal! And it is dumb to see some players just using stats to beat others.
For example, i see few players just play dropshots and make their opponent come to net. With both players at the net, it's obvious that the player with better volley stat wins.....so dumb. if u know whats coming and u can't do anything to stop it then it's really stupid. In real life, human beings try things...they are not computer tactics just when they come to net they think its always point to my opponent? infact they change gameplay depending on style of their opponent. if i increase my volley by 20% after i see my opponent trying the same thing all the time, it can increase my chances to win the point. that's more realistic than being jerked off every point playing same stuff. Even in this game if anyone increase power by 20% on backhand, i can challenge them the same way with my topspin game. It wont make a huge difference for me, well defence becomes little harder but that's what i am talking about. trying new things on opponent. And the option of changing stats by 20% can be made available only for limited time like staying in menus for 75 secs. then players won't waste time changing them.
P. S.And I am not talking about changing topspin, topspin should not be included in Stats! Check character sheet while playing online, there is no stats showing topspin. So please don't talk about changing topspin. Cuz it is not considered in this case.
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