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Postby testo » 23 Nov 2013, 10:33

After SEVERAL THOUSANDS matchs (online like offline) on Fair Mode / Elite controls, i can conclude:

- too much errors during the game : no pleasure to play
- too much accuracy required for the placement, regarding the accuracy move from a key pressed : it's just impossible
to be really well positionned each time
- volley too difficult
- bug on balls near baseline : unjustified errors, even with a slice
- too much power for players 5/8m behind their baseline. They can catch almost all balls, run in circle...
- lob totally inefficient execpt may be if you put 100% on lob stat but who did that ?? (with 780 pts)
- too much balls on the lines (offline & online games)
- no possibility to make a small lob at the net : 9/10 out

Regarding this conclusion, i prefer stopping the game instead of becoming crazy to try to improve
my game with too much pb.

GL for all

Manu, could you remove/delete/erase my account, i don't want to be able to reconnect anymore
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Re: retirement

Postby Heinrich von Westphalen » 23 Nov 2013, 11:56

Good luck and all the best ...

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Re: retirement

Postby manutoo » 24 Nov 2013, 04:51

seb,
change your password using some random stuff, so you won't be able to remember it... ;)
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Re: retirement

Postby testo » 24 Nov 2013, 14:01

manutoo wrote:seb,
change your password using some random stuff, so you won't be able to remember it... ;)



Happy to read you are ready to correct these really boring bugs .... (ironic)

Thx Heinrich

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Re: retirement

Postby Petr Kroppe » 24 Nov 2013, 19:30

Seb i dont know You, but I think that kind of feeling is close to me as weel.
I usually feel useless, particularly when I see so many guys developing much faster than me. And usually then I blame game about my weakness.
Guy, youre great player.Just you need to rest and gain some distance.

And about all 'bugs' you listed here. That would make game so easy and so arcade. Probably you are aware of fact that changes would make you defetable by rookies. Youre experience would mean much much less then now.
Making shots in tennis is hard. And what is clue of playing here is figuring out your best and worst sides and way of play.

Dont give up and come on ;-) Firstly just make 2 weeks of rest.
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Re: retirement

Postby testo » 25 Nov 2013, 00:17

thx Petr, really thx....

My problem is that i think i reached my limit with these bugs, i can't do more, almost sure

I accept that players can improve themselves faster than me, everybody has not the same talent but i feel these bugs break my potential

thx for all
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Re: retirement

Postby manutoo » 25 Nov 2013, 04:40

seb,
all the points you outlined are not bugs, some even don't exist or are just completely wrong ; I already explained most of them to you in the French part of these Forums.
The only new point is the last one ; I checked and as soon as you have just a little bit of time to prepare your strike (ie: stop to run), then the lob near the net (after a bounce) have at least 80% chance to stay in (with Elite controls, Fair Mode, 0% lob skill).
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Re: retirement

Postby testo » 25 Nov 2013, 07:03

Manu,

Sorry but i'm not agree with You. For ex, in my subject "too much slice out", i made several hundreds of tests through several dozens of dmo : i have an out shot even if i'm wee placed and i have prepared at least 1 or 2 sec before i hit the ball. i watch slow motion for each of these shots and i'm right.

The same for the lob. In reality, i don't need to have 10 sec to make a lob at net. Just find in all the forum a player who can realize 80% of net lob in the court (with dmo). I won't find.

To resume:
- too much accuracy required for the placement, regarding the accuracy move from a key pressed : it's just impossible to be really well positionned each time => not a bug but too much accuracy required, far away from the reality. Me, i can play a ball in my foot and send it not out the limit, like a safe shot. In TE, you can't (or @ 5%).

- volley too difficult => i still confirm like all players who try to play at net

- bug on balls near baseline : unjustified errors, even with a slice => explained above

- too much power for players 5/8m behind their baseline. They can catch almost all balls, run in circle... => already explained in others subjects. Why you can send a shot on the opponent baseline when you are 5/7m behind yours ? You should have more power...

- lob totally inefficient execpt may be if you put 100% on lob stat but who did that ?? (with 780 pts) => i can show you several tens of dmo : totally inefficient !! Try to make a poll in TE about th lob...

- too much balls on the lines (offline & online games) => easy to check and compare to reality ! Not really a bug, true, but too far from reality for a real simu

- no possibility to make a small lob at the net : 9/10 out => 80% if you want but to fail not to succeed


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Re: retirement

Postby Heinrich von Westphalen » 25 Nov 2013, 08:07

Dear Seb,
I try to explain my opinion by the view of a good online player and a modder as well.

seb wrote:- too much accuracy required for the placement, regarding the accuracy move from a key pressed : it's just impossible to be really well positionned each time => not a bug but too much accuracy required, far away from the reality. Me, i can play a ball in my foot and send it not out the limit, like a safe shot. In TE, you can't (or @ 5%).

If you decrease power on fore- and backhand to fix this. You have just to choose the right shot ... a close ball like half-volleys or short angles, you can't return with an 100% power shot. Otherwise this game will be an arcade game.

seb wrote:- volley too difficult => i still confirm like all players who try to play at net

I don't play that much at net but there are players like Markizo, Nadalesque or Kuga as well, who plays nearly perfect at net. If something hard to learn it isn't too difficult ... maybe you don't do enough. ;)

seb wrote:- bug on balls near baseline : unjustified errors, even with a slice => explained above

This defense shots are normal, in TE and in reality.

seb wrote:- too much power for players 5/8m behind their baseline. They can catch almost all balls, run in circle... => already explained in others subjects. Why you can send a shot on the opponent baseline when you are 5/7m behind yours ? You should have more power...

That's why you have to varied you game play ... short/long or fast/slow. Nobody can return a good dropshot when he is far from baseline.

seb wrote:- lob totally inefficient execpt may be if you put 100% on lob stat but who did that ?? (with 780 pts) => i can show you several tens of dmo : totally inefficient !! Try to make a poll in TE about th lob...

Lobs are efficient ... but it isn't a one-hit-wonder. :D To combine lobs and short angles is the key.

seb wrote:- too much balls on the lines (offline & online games) => easy to check and compare to reality ! Not really a bug, true, but too far from reality for a real simu

That is normal for a sport game that when you become good you play on the edge of possibilty. If developer avoid this, there would be to much faults.

seb wrote:- no possibility to make a small lob at the net : 9/10 out => 80% if you want but to fail not to succeed

It is possible ... but you have to prepare this more than flat shots. I use lobs at net often with success.

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