Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Togtdyalttai » 12 Jun 2010, 04:31

Algo wrote:perfect behaviour for a mod, isn't it?

ok, I think I'm more calmed down now so I would like to ask you for the exact criteria in which lag rule would be used, lag ratio?, ping? (how much?)


Well, I suppose the lag rule could be used for other people than North Americans and Europeans, but I don't expect it. The way we use the lag rule is to have one of the mods check to see if he has lag with the other player.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby MaxPoint » 12 Jun 2010, 08:05

Togtdyalttai wrote:Well, I suppose the lag rule could be used for other people than North Americans and Europeans, but I don't expect it. The way we use the lag rule is to have one of the mods check to see if he has lag with the other player.


The mods check to see if he has lag with the other player, this is completely ridiculous, the mods live in a different country that the player who calls the rule, that is not a valid parameter, ej. I with I have 50 ping eronakold more than most Europeans and Stajus I have twice than most Europeans, then that is not a valid parameter for the mods check the lag being who lives in another country and is in no way comparable.

Eronakold and Tog if they make a new rule that is logical, and you end up discriminating, and being so proud, if you continue with that discriminative behavior you will bring problems to Manu Too.

This is a Worldwide Tour, people from all countries can play, and rules we all have equal rights.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Zurdo98 » 12 Jun 2010, 17:58

The mods check to see if he has lag with the other player, this is completely ridiculous, the mods live in a different country that the player who calls the rule, that is not a valid parameter, ej. I with I have 50 ping eronakold more than most Europeans and Stajus I have twice than most Europeans, then that is not a valid parameter for the mods check the lag being who lives in another country and is in no way comparable.

Eronakold and Tog if they make a new rule that is logical, and you end up discriminating, and being so proud, if you continue with that discriminative behavior you will bring problems to Manu Too.

This is a Worldwide Tour, people from all countries can play, and rules we all have equal rights


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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Algo » 12 Jun 2010, 18:13

I think a "solution" would be to have some kind of mods, which only job would be to check lag when Lag Rule is asked, from every continent, it wouldn't be perfect because this mods wouldn't be from the same country as the other players most of the time, but it's better than only having 4 mods, 2 in Europe and 2 in N.A
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Zurdo98 » 12 Jun 2010, 18:15

Algo wrote:I think a "solution" would be to have some kind of mods, which only job would be to check lag when Lag Rule is asked, from every continent, it wouldn't be perfect because this mods wouldn't be from the same country as the other players most of the time, but it's better than only having 4 mods, 2 in Europe and 2 in N.A


wow!

it's the solution xD!

i agree with you Algo
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Mr.Schmith » 12 Jun 2010, 22:38

the fact is people are tired of playing in lag doesent matter if its unfair for u or not but we are not used to the lag because alot of active players are from europe and still close to eachother which makes us play with eachother more than with others so we are used to lagfree matches and i dont think we should have a tour based on who is better with lag or not, this is probably a subject that will never end and i doubt it will go in ur favor
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby huguitojv » 13 Jun 2010, 21:06

Mr.Schmith wrote:the fact is people are tired of playing in lag doesent matter if its unfair for u or not but we are not used to the lag because alot of active players are from europe and still close to eachother which makes us play with eachother more than with others so we are used to lagfree matches and i dont think we should have a tour based on who is better with lag or not, this is probably a subject that will never end and i doubt it will go in ur favor


Finally somebody of Europe that says coherent something. But there are somethings that you have forgotten, this is a global tournament, remember that we too can play in free lag.
But i would like that this time we find a solution.
I propose that will create a clear rule and concise, and not just with the criterion of the mods. But for all, in equal.
And i repeat, thanks Mr.Schmith, that's the spirit that we should found. Constructive critics.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Togtdyalttai » 15 Jun 2010, 22:24

A new rule has been added: People competing in a TE tour other than this one will not be included in our draws. We've seen a new tour pop up recently, and those who are a part of it should take note.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Stefan Edberg » 16 Jun 2010, 00:55

Togtdyalttai wrote:A new rule has been added: People competing in a TE tour other than this one will not be included in our draws. We've seen a new tour pop up recently, and those who are a part of it should take note.

Huh?? Wich one? European tour?
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Togtdyalttai » 16 Jun 2010, 06:39

Stefan Edberg wrote:Huh?? Wich one? European tour?


Yeah, it got deleted after I said that. :whistle:
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby huguitojv » 17 Jun 2010, 09:31

Tog, would be very very good if you could explain the "lag rule" before that begins Wimbledon. To avoid trouble. Thanks.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Togtdyalttai » 17 Jun 2010, 18:04

huguitojv wrote:Tog, would be very very good if you could explain the "lag rule" before that begins Wimbledon. To avoid trouble. Thanks.


Well, if there's lag in a match (a good way for us to check that is the lag ratio), then one of the moderators will check their lag with each of the players in the match. If he has lag with one of the players but not the other one, the player who he doesn't have lag with will receive a w.o. This rule cannot be used after 2 games have been finished in the match. You can tell early on whether the match will be laggy, so if you think it will be then stop playing. This doesn't technically have to apply to a player from Europe or North America against one from another continent, but since that's where the moderators are from that's what we'd expect.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby huguitojv » 18 Jun 2010, 05:47

O.K. up there well, thanks, but... When are there lag in a match? Can you put a clear and estrict limit? One number in ms of ping or something like that. That isn't clear to me, why measure with mods of Europe and NorthAmerica? Then all players of SouthAmerica, Asia and Africa we have lost.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby Togtdyalttai » 18 Jun 2010, 05:51

huguitojv wrote:O.K. up there well, thanks, but... When are there lag in a match? Can you put a clear and estrict limit? One number in ms of ping or something like that. That isn't clear to me, why measure with mods of Europe and NorthAmerica? Then all players of SouthAmerica, Asia and Africa we have lost.


No, we can't set a strict limit because one match may have low ping but high lag and another may have just the opposite. All lag is not the same either. Sometimes it's constant, sometimes it skips, and sometimes the game freezes altogether for a short time. So in short, we really have to look at it from match to match.
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Re: Consolidation of Rules Made This Season

Postby huguitojv » 19 Jun 2010, 06:39

O.K. Thanks for responding Tog. But really I hope that has not injustice, especially with Richou (Richita Fan) and equality reigns once and for all.
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