Mana Games

[Elias]

Well, you're talking about Henrdrich, and you know (watching his work), he's not going to waste many time, to a thing is never going to be post.

nope, i'm not talking about Heinrich by the way. The things he posted are a work in progress and obviously requires time to be done, i've no problem
with his preview posts, regarding the quality of the content, looking forward to it patiently.

[ComeonANDY!!]

I think that the discussion here should be the Big Modder status.

This is what i said about it the other day..

I always thought that the Big Modders status was earned by the fact that people who received it could Mod? And have proved over time (even a short space of time) That they are bloody good at what they do. The Big Modders, who i have had the pleasure to download their work from have always deserved that Status..

Look!! I have respect for all Modders They are far better than me! At least they try to Mod, unlike Myself! All i am saying is this, the Big Modders status should be earned from Excellent Work and NOT given just so their first posts can be edited!

The Big Modders status is becoming a Joke these days!

[Nigogu]

I have never done any Modding for this forum! So get your facts straight

Really Then, why did you posted this topic29-12544.php?start=195#p148596

Why the hell you still hang around this forum like a Bad Smell? I will never know! You don't play the Game, you haven't even bought it?? Go back to your Facebook and Twitter accounts or haven't you got any friends to speak with anymore? Because you're so Fucking Daft and Annoying!

I thought i was useful for this Forum, and even if i'm not, I have the liberty to do whatever i want to do in the Internet.

I thought it was clear in my comment

Esa era una pregunta retorica (para que no fuera respondida).

yes, even I notest that he was joking, beside that, why do you think that he is influential? and with WHOs influent?

Influent, it's that guy that says:
Oh, ''Example'' is the best animaker here, and everyone says, yes, he is the best, makes the people change it's opinion, & everyone loves him (o almenos antes de ''eso'').

the only thing I tested of Heinrich i like it alot, I can talk about the other stuff, videos and all that, i didnt tested, but I understand, if he creates a patch, I thing he takes is time to do all the work he need. Its like Sam release some previews of his Megapatch and then we demand him to release it all now!!, with no consideration of the time and effort he put. So I dont know, maybe we can wait a little bit for this mod.
But now, about we can discuss here is the "new mod" , I see yesterday some reaaaaally , ugly courts, I dont know, I did courts too,not better like the quality of rogerfed or crel or rounders, but I have an idea on how to make it, I dont know what this guy was thinking when he release this:

courtd.jpg

Yeah megy, i agree in the whole post, nothing to say.

I believe that some guys got the will to do mods, but they need to be guide by the olders one, those who knows.
a baby doesnt run before learn how to walk, right?

The problem is, the old guys are leaving the Forum, the ''Kersou's'' & ''Torto's'' are not more here.
Tutorials (made by ''pros'' like the anim's one) would be great for this...... don't you think

I think that the discussion here should be the Big Modder status.

Sure, but not about MY big modder status.
You know i have no chance to get it now, the only chance would be a ''Alma caritativa con ganas de donarle a alguien que hace courts podridas''
Ojo, me estoy burlando de mi mismo

nope, i'm not talking about Heinrich by the way. The things he posted are a work in progress and obviously requires time to be done, i've no problem
with his preview posts, regarding the quality of the content, looking forward to it patiently.

Agree, but, who where you talking about then

This is what i said about it the other day..

I always thought that the Big Modders status was earned by the fact that people who received it could Mod? And have proved over time (even a short space of time) That they are bloody good at what they do. The Big Modders, who i have had the pleasure to download their work from have always deserved that Status..

+1000

Look!! I have respect for all Modders

You don't have respect for me, even if i do horrible courts, i guess are better than the pic megyaem posted.

They are far better than me! At least they try to Mod, unlike Myself! All i am saying is this, the Big Modders status should be earned from Excellent Work and NOT given just so their first posts can be edited!
The Big Modders status is becoming a Joke these days!

+1000

[ComeonANDY!!]

Question number 4:
Last year i made the Newport Court and people thought it looked SHIT?
DId i...(A) Agree with them (b) i made a better version after their helpful comments (C) Did i cry over their comments they made and then started to have a go back at them for criticising me for being a crap modder.

Nigogu, It was MarcaTennis who made the Newport Court not me And people thought it looked Shit! BTW...The answer was (C)

[Nigogu]

Nigogu, It was MarcaTennis who made the Newport Court not me And people thought it looked Shit! BTW...The answer was (C)

Oh Sorry man
I thought were you, then......... YOU HAVE TO START MODDING MAN,

PS: Let's forget all this, and why can't we be friends

[torto14]

Everybody started by 0, for example: Torto deserved in 2011 (or before), to be in the forum ''Bad Mods'' , or even you

Yes, it's true, when I started my wasn't exactly of a brilliant standard:





I also took a long time to stop making some bad mistakes with outfits (e.g. shoes) because I wanted to get things done quickly.

I think the thing that is the most annoying thing to see is when someone starts a new thread with poor quality textures: block colours drawn in paint or youtube-paste courts (not naming any particular examples) and all of the responses gush with over-the-top praise as if it were the greatest thing ever posted, which doesn't exactly encourage the modder to improve.

The other thing that is a shame, is that I tried to help out various people starting out modding this year and posted several tutorials and templates, but, as of now outfit making in particular has just gone backwards.

I always thought that the Big Modders status was earned by the fact that people who received it could Mod? And have proved over time (even a short space of time) That they are bloody good at what they do. The Big Modders, who i have had the pleasure to download their work from have always deserved that Status..

Yeah, I think the standards of Big Modder might have slipped a bit recenty

[Ivo ISNER]

look if you started this topic just because of my mods you guys are ridiculous my mods will get better.

[torto14]

That's the right attitude Just ask if you want any tips

[miharu0607]

Torto, this shirt was edited in paint, right?
Is it one of the first shirts you've made? Or first at all.
If it was the first one, it's perfect.

"all of the responses gush with over-the-top praise as if it were the greatest thing ever posted, which doesn't exactly encourage the modder to improve."
That sentence is very sad, but also very true.

I would also say that - I've learnt how to edit clothes by observing the way you make your clothes, but it needs some time to understand (4-5 minutes) where the sleeves are, in which places the front and back of a shorts/shirt are touching each other etc. etc. It is small effort, but many people are even not trying to check how the things should be done (like one poster did with placing collar on the lower part of back). Not to mention that some new "modders" are not posting previews, so it looks like right after they made something in paint, they're uploading it here, without even checking what they made and how does it looks like on a model.

[Ivo ISNER]

That's the right attitude Just ask if you want any tips

thanks torto14

[torto14]

Torto, this shirt was edited in paint, right?

No Photoshop, just not being used to anything like its full potential

I imitated what I saw at the time, which was Jaydraco. After a few shirts done in that style I decided I wanted to add more detail.

Is it one of the first shirts you've made? Or first at all.

Not the very first no, that was this:



(April, 2010)

I would also say that - I've learnt how to edit clothes by observing the way you make your clothes, but it needs some time to understand (4-5 minutes) where the sleeves are, in which places the front and back of a shorts/shirt are touching each other etc. etc. It is small effort, but many people are even not trying to check how the things should be done (like one poster did with placing collar on the lower part of back). Not to mention that some new "modders" are not posting previews, so it looks like right after they made something in paint, they're uploading it here, without even checking what they made and how does it looks like on a model.

This is exactly it, some designs can require hours of fiddling around to get everything in the right place and it can be less straightforward than it initially seems due to the weird quirks of the the models (e.g. collar texture duplicating part way the down the back of the shirt ).

[miharu0607]

@Torto So I guess that the most difficult shirt to make was Stepanek's Davis Cup?
I've spent 15 minutes to place the lion on UK's DC shirt in right place, and I am still not satisfied with final result.

All I can say after seeing that red shirt is that we have similar start with making shirts I've also copied the front of a shirt on a base, used some warp tool and that's it But that's not the way

And wow - I was never able to make such straight lines in photoshop Especially with brush size = 1 You've used pen tool to make them?

[torto14]

All I can say after seeing that red shirt is that we have similar start with making shirts I've also copied the front of a shirt on a base, used some warp tool and that's it But that's not the way

And wow - I was never able to make such straight lines in photoshop Especially with brush size = 1 You've used pen tool to make them?

This was before I knew how to make lines with the pen tool!
Btw, to make straight line with the brush, just hold in shift, click the beginning point of the line and then the end point and it will drawn in-between for you.

@Torto So I guess that the most difficult shirt to make was Stepanek's Davis Cup?
I've spent 15 minutes to place the lion on UK's DC shirt in right place, and I am still not satisfied with final result.

I've never done a Stepanek shirt, actually, I think Sam/Draco did that one.

I remember this one taking a very long time (although I think I would find it easier now):

[miharu0607]

^ Oh, I've never used shift But I know about pen tool for some years now as I need it for some other things in the past.
And that shirt is quite difficult - I hate more complicated shapes haha, but as long as I can use skew tool, I am fine with it

[MarianoEG]

look if you started this topic just because of my mods you guys are ridiculous my mods will get better.

I dont think is only bout you, as I say to you in pm, you need to focus more in what you want to do, I know that you can do it, just take your time, ok? and dont post more of those ugly stuff you can do it better.
i think that around the last years, some self-called Modders or "Big modder" appears,as miharu said, if you look around the pages in this forum, youll see five millions of topics about new mods, but non of them do quality mods, not even a decent one.

...All i am saying is this, the Big Modders status should be earned from Excellent Work and NOT given just so their first posts can be edited!

The Big Modders status is becoming a Joke these days!

I absolutely agree, I know that manutoo have no intention on change that, but he need, maybe, one guy who start to Mod, can open a survey in his topic asking: Do you like this Mods? or Im able to reach Big Modder status? or something like that, and based on what people choose(YES/NO),he can asked for the status.
Im just sayin, I know that if manutoo read this he will say: do you like to asked you who is able to be Big Modder?
but I dont know, is just an idea.