New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

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Which Tournament system do you want?

Poll ended at 01 Jan 2009, 20:38

New 6 months season (2 seasons per 1 year)
4
19%
Old 11 months season (like ATP)
15
71%
I just want to play it
2
10%
 
Total votes : 21

New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Blacky » 20 Dec 2008, 20:38

Time is come to decide system for the next 2 (or 1) season in tennis elbow.
Please read this whole post before voting, and/or see discussion topic here: topic13-1761.php

First option - 6 months based season (2 season per year)
Is based on facts.
We have barely 30 active players at one moment.
Small tournaments in older system would be mostly useless. (any changes there in old system will lead to this 6 months idea)
New players will have more chances to achieve some things quicker because of 2 seasons per year

Biggest flaw of this system for some users is not following real ATP calendar and lower number of smaller tournaments

In 6 months season there would be:
4 Grands slams (each one will last 10 days)
8 Masters (+ final masters cup) - or whatever will be called in next season
12 small tournaments with possibly of 24 small tournaments - two tournaments per week based (it depends about number of players that will be active at particular time)
-> 6 of them (small tournaments) will be counted for rankings
-> Each player is only allowed to play on 9 small tournaments




example of potential calendar you can see here:
[img=http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4596/calendarnewonekj1.th.png]
(its not final one)


Second option - 11 months season (following ATP)

Well, most of us know that system very well so it doesn't need lots of describing. If chosen there will be some changes regarding small tournaments. (bigger number of small tournaments will be counted than in RL)
It will follow real ATP calendar.
New players will have more chances to show themselves on small tournaments, but not to have chances to achieve something that soon.

Biggest flaw of this system for some users is that is too long (because of number of small players that are active), not dynamic and possibility of some players not playing till the end of the season (like it happened in this years tournaments)


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topic13-1761.php

Poll will last 12 days, until midnight of January 1st, 2009
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Blacky » 20 Dec 2008, 20:43

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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby ahmedcoolio » 20 Dec 2008, 20:55

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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby oohzuzana » 20 Dec 2008, 20:56

I voted for 11 month season, but I'd like to see ranking points only last for 6 months :)
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Togtdyalttai » 20 Dec 2008, 20:57

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Voted for old system
I agree with Zuzana's idea
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Santiago92 » 20 Dec 2008, 21:00

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I just want to play it 8-)
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby S.Williamz » 20 Dec 2008, 21:06

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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Krisztian J. » 20 Dec 2008, 21:10

Krisztian J. voted: New 6 months season (2 seasons per 1 year)
doubles:5.Best: 2.

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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Algo » 20 Dec 2008, 22:10

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Old System...i just want to play, but if it's with the old system, better...
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Tscott415 » 20 Dec 2008, 22:44

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I voted for the old system and Zuzana's idea
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby TTennisfan » 21 Dec 2008, 00:40

I vote for the old 11 months system
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby kyuuji » 21 Dec 2008, 00:44

The old system for me.
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Eronakold » 21 Dec 2008, 01:17

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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby manutoo » 21 Dec 2008, 08:17

I didn't vote... ;)

I just want to say what would be the best solution in my idea, if it didn't have 2 quite bad points :
You should run in phase with the ATP calendar, coz I guess a good bunch new players will be more excited to find out they can compete in the tournament they are just currently watching on TV... Also, it'd allow regulars players to take more easily a week or 2 off, when they are away of their PC (for work, study, holidays, etc...) .
The rankings should be done on past 52 weeks, counting ~18 tournaments (4GS + 8MS + 1MC + 5 others), as well as the 8 players selection for the year-end Masters, but the seeding shouldn't be done from the yearly ranking. It should be a special mixture so new players could raise quickly. Maybe the seeding could be done with only the best 5 tournaments, or something like that. So new good players could get a decent seeding within 2 months (depending a bit if there are big tournaments or not in this period).

And here the 2 big bad points :
- it'll give more work to the Mods to keep 2 different tracks for the Seeding & the Ranking
- it'll make confused new players (and likely old ones as well ;) ) about why they get seeded in such way
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Re: New season system - POLL - player pls vote!!

Postby Togtdyalttai » 21 Dec 2008, 09:15

Manutoo, I wish you would come up with more ideas like this! The main problem I have with the 1 season per year IS the seedings. That's why I supported Zuzana's idea. But I like this idea much better because it updates seedings even faster and surface differences don't make as much of a difference. What I mean by that is that, since the first half of the year has a bunch of tournaments on slower surfaces but the second half has a bunch of tournaments on faster surfaces the players who play well on slow surfaces would be ranked well one half and those who play well on fast surfaces would be ranked better the other half of the season.

About it being more work for the mods, I think the solution is to divide and conquer. If there are enough people working on it, this idea could definitely work better than the current system. If I can be of any help, I volunteer myself, though my time is quite limited during school.
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