Mana Games

[S.Williamz]

And we are again there were we started. Do you remember our last match before end of the year??? You used this top spin lob the whole game and i never talked about that on forum. We both used it today and now it is a problem. I really dont understand you... And you played bad... hmmm you played really good but you was nervous after 2nd set.

Huh? I just said I had problems with it...not saying you cheated or anything. lol I couldn't understand why I couldn't return that shot with fire 2...usually it works. So that forced me to change my tactics which resulted me getting angry and I played very bad missing all kinds of shots. I don't usually make excuses but this time I really played super crappy and I'm so pissed at myself. lol

[stuey]

Bajko, I think Williamz doesn't complain on your shots, so no need to be nervous

Anyways, congrats on winning

[Bajko]

im not nervous

[S.Williamz]

Bajko, I think Williamz doesn't complain on your shots, so no need to be nervous

Anyways, congrats on winning

Thanks stuey. Yeah Bajko misunderstood me.

Anyway I feel bad for making excuses, the usual after match dissapointment, I hadn't lost a match in a while so it hit really hard to find someone better than me. LOL But I feel I can definitely improve on that performance so I hope our next match is a little bit closer than that!lol

[stuey]

Hi to everyone, this is the situation on the table at the moment:

1.TE League__matches_sets__games

1.Bajko________3-0___6-1___40-23
2.BlackyM ______2-0___4-1___29-26
3.S.Williamz ____1-1___3-2___25-15
4.Jazzo________0-2___1-4___26-29
5.Dusan _______0-1___0-2___10-13
6.Marat Safin ___0-1___0-2____0-12
6.Milos ________0-1___0-2____0-12
8.A-Rad _______0-0___0-0____0-0

Matches played: 6/16

There is 10 matches left to be played. I only want to ask why A-Rad doesn't play his matches? If someone still doesn't know, A-Rad's msn is broken so you have to contact each other through private messages or here in topic to play matches with A-Rad.

[S.Williamz]

Ok so I play with Blacky M and I win the first set 6-3 and lead the second 40-15 with 2 breakpoints...then he goes to the chat, and complains that lag bothered him(that was actually one of the most lag free match I have ever played so I have absolutely no idea what he is talking about, not that it matters anyhow)so we need to start the second set again...you know, the usual... ...so I tell him no, and he quits...

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[Blacky]

just lol

you know that there was lag on the beginning of the first set...I told you immediately after first point...and i didn't complainted at all in the rest of the set...because there was no lag

But amazingly at the beginning of the second set and my serve giant lag started again. After first point (out) I told you that it started to lag again. What was your answer (something that I don't enter chat during the set), I thought it will stop, so I played second point (out), then again I told you that lags...and you didn't answered at all

Then I won hilarious point and I told you "You see", and I told you that it would be better to repeat second set...we all know what was your reaction

Then I thought if i win another point maybe then he'll agree to repeat the set...but I hited the net because of lag...and then something "exploded" in me...and I didn't wanted to continue match.

And you are saying that there was no lag...I can also say that you cheated on first games in set on the same base...but I don't think so..

I'll just say about something before the match that will att. your teory about "lag free match". You hosted first and we couldn't play, why? Because your ping was too high!!

Then I hosted and somehow we could play.

I'm always fair about elbow matches...my last match against dusan for example:
In first set at 5-4 for me, in one point caspersky av pop up to him, and he lost a point...what did I did...I let him a point.
at tiebreak of also that match at 7-7, he left the game, he didn't showed up for 6 hours...Stuey asked me if I want he can say that Dusan ret. and let me a win...but I didn't wanted to do that...because it would be unfair win...so I waited for dusan, and when he showed up we play till the end (2 points)

And there are several examples of letting players points in tiebreak after they had problems...but almost noone never let me a point...so why did I even tried to talk with you, and thought that you'll be fair...that obviously impossible

and I will not argue with you here...and I will not answer to any more of your posts...I'll just talk to stuey when he comes...he can decide what to do

[A-Rad]

sorry guys ill play all my matches next week. this week i am extremely overloaded with work so i am not even online

[S.Williamz]

The usual nonsense starts...well I tell you I do not want to waste my time arguing with you either. So this is my only post about this subject.

The game speed slows down in ALL matches every now and then, and in a match as lag free as this, it feels absurd someone would complain. Plus, try convince everyone that you lost those points because of lag. It's a sad attempt to replay fairly won points. PLUS, even if you did lose those points due to lag, it wouldn't matter, because lag is something that affects everyone and you just have to deal with it and stop whining.

And yes, when you entered the chat, I kindly asked you to stop doing it because it bothers my concentration when you do it just before every important point(when I had breakpoints, or 30-0 or 30-15 on his serve ). But of course, you wouldn't listen but did it several times after, complaining about non existant lag.

And then you are trying to imply that I'm a cheater...well I won't even get into that. All I say is that Blacky M I thought you were a cool player but you are just another of those who try to change the score in tournaments and make all kinds of nonsensical explanations why the match should be replayed. I am very dissapointed. Gladly most players are not as childish as you.

I really think because this kind of behaviour is not that uncommon in tournaments(trust me I have had problems with this kind of players before) I think it needs to be punished, it really gets on my nerves when we can't just play a match through without all this BS.

So, I post the result:

S.Williamz d. Blacky M 6-3 0-0(40-15) Blacky M retired.

Thank you.

[S.Williamz]

Double post sorry.

[Blacky]

every important point? just lol

if i did that before ever important point we would be still playing...so don't generalize

an nonsense started when you posted your first comment about the match...implying that i want to change the score...I never wanted to change the score...did I said that I had to won that points...no I said that those points were unfair and that we should repeat them...and they were unfair...and I asked you if you want to repeat second set before you had 15-40... and I told you why.

so you can lie to yourself and to rest of the forum when you say that match was lag free...obviously it wasn't lag free...I wouldn't complaint that much...and wasting my time on replies here!

And don't bullshit about "it thought that you are cool player" and that kind a stuff, well I also thought that you are fair player...you are not fair at all...and you can't tell that I started to complain about lag after 15-40, I started to complain about lag in first point in the first set...and in first point of second set...obviously I had good reason for that in that early game

And also you are telling me that I'm childish...I just want to ask you. How many time did you told me that I'm lame, and how many times did you told me that I'm idiot?
And how many times did I told you that you're lame or idiot?

And yes I said that I will not reply to his posts...but I have to defend my honour

[S.Williamz]

Okay I wouldn't like to continue with you, but since you pull out the "language card":

I'm gonna justify my language. I have been nice to you and certain other troublesome players for a long time, and I had a tough day today, and I really just wanted to play this match without any problems. You enter the chat on important points(yes on every important point because there wasn't that many), I really feel pissed off, but I'm being nice, saying please stop because it's really bothering me. You're obviously not nice enough to do that. Then you start demanding that we change the score, to which I nicely say many times no. Then you say I'm being unfair, and I feel I have to use stronger language because being nice obviously DOES NOT GET THROUGH TO YOU. I thought you were an idiot, which I called you ONCE. If you feel deeply offended, I guess I have to apologize. And lame I feel you still are, and will not apologize. How you are acting is incredibly lame. What's even more lame is, as a final resort you pull out that card and try to win points by saying that I'm being rude, while to each lame I said you replied I am lame, plus you were the one calling me a f***** idiot.

Now let's leave this at this, because Blacky M you are making a fool out of yourself sorry to say, plus making these tournaments a pain instead of fun. Get a grip please. I hope in our next match we won't have this problems. I trust the moderator makes sure of this.

[Blacky]

Did you actually red what you said?

What points? You called me childish..."with pulling that card" I just proved to you that if I acted childish I'm not the only one. And I'm not the one who trethend me that you'll show screen of me calling you ....

That stuff on every point that you said...thats a lie...big lie...did I entered the chat in whole first set except after first point? No I didn't!!

And second set...well I told you why I entered the chat...and second set we only played 4 points

So tell me...is that every point?

Did I entered the chat at your break point in first set? Did I entered the chat at any point when I had 0-40, or deuce after that...Did I entered the chat on your set points?

Cmon if you are going tell lies...just stop playing this elbow.

Not one word that I said its a lie...but obviously you have to justify yourself...and the only way to do that is by lying.

And when did I demanded to change the score...i asked you...i thought that you'll be fair and accept...because after that first point in that game I had no reason to lie...you didn't get those BPs yet...you were far from them...and you only had one BP in the whole match...why would I lie about that then, my serve wasn't in danger at all at that time.
I also said again that there is a giant lag after I won my point...why would I do that if that wasn't true.
One more thing even with 15-40 I didn't lost my serve yet, who know what could happen...thats one more thing that is telling you that I don't lie...why would I lie if I'm still in the game...why would I left the game.

And one crucial thing...you first posted comment about match, by "attacking me"...and you do not expect me to defend myself...at least I'm not defending or attacking with lies like you are. And I made this match painful...no lag did...and you by posting here that I'm lame.

And it all would be perfectly fine...but you couldn't let it go.

ps. If I hate something, thats unfairness, and that first game of the second set is one of the most unfair thing that happened me on tennis elbow...so thats why I left the match.

[Jazzo]

Williamz pobjednik, Bleki gubitnik.

[Bajko]

Lag or no lag, Williams wins.