Mana Games

[Mahmut]

Hi, manuto i had some problems about gameplay otherwise it's great.

1) Returns are so strong and so easy i believe. Specially i'm annoyed even on clay second serve returns are just instant winner most of the time. I had top spin serve talent and i'm serving through the opponents backhand side on second serves mostly but in response i get return winners and there is no way i can react to that. Playing both xkt and wtet mods. I'm not sure how this spin serve talent has any effect other than visually.
Returning with backhand shouldn't be that easy on clay when ball bounce your backhand. In game you can look statistics maybe.

2) Other thing about top spin. Lately online play, i'm experiencing against high top spin opponents start to hit slices with efficiency after bounce its just kills the top spin. I think this needs to be fixed really.

3) Also sometimes i hit way too short when hitting with top spin(specially on the run). Is it normal? When it's short sometimes it's allows opponents to hit shoulder height acceleration easily.

4) Other than this when i try short acc with bit spin(down button) i hit net too often despite well positioned. Don't understand this either. Aren't high top spin should allow to not hit to the net. But when i try bit flat short acceleration it is opposite i don't hit the net.

5) I think players are bit slower in the game than real life. Could be bit faster. Also changing directions i struggle looks too slow.

6) Lastly i feel some anims are different than others at some looks more quick for me and i believe this effects the gameplay. Also idk if it is bug maybe i'm getting kind of mispositioned while i had good position to hit the ball on fh side. Some anims specially bachkands are more quick and maybe anims are buggy on fh side i feel.

7) With all these i think game rewards attacking play highly. Probably in game players hit faster than real life atleast more consistently hitting fast shots.

[Mahmut]

Any answer?

[manutoo]

Hello,

sorry for the late reply, I was taken with other things and your message was a bit long...

1) For the backhand return winners against topspin serve, I'd need to see it in action ; can you send me a Bug Report the next time you see a couple of these ? (HowTo => topic5-31732.php )
Normally, the high ball on the BH side should lead to an inaccurate strike, so having a winner sometimes is possible, but having mostly winners is kinda strange...

2) I'd need to see that as well through a Bug Report

3) If you don't center the ball, the topspin strike will be shorter

4) If you didn't prepare early enough your short acceleration, it'll have a chance to end in the net, especially if the ball is too low. After having missed a couple of these, you can send me a Bug Report, telling on what scores it happens.

5) I don't know the speed of players in the WTET mod, but at 90-100% for Speed + Muscle Tone, the players are as fast as the fastest tennis players. With the original game's Realistic Mode, the max is 90%, so your player will be a tad slower than the fastest players in real life, but he'll be on par with the average Top 10 player.

6) Animations do not influence the game rules, but they influence your perception of what's going on, so some might be better for you than others. Especially, if some Modded animations have a wrong sweet spot for a strike, it'll be quite confusing visually to play with them.

7) It's possible in some case, but I watched many Jijo vs Mystery matches and it didn't feel like the attack was overpowered, but it is surely harder to learn to defend than attack in TE4 (though the balance is better than in TE2013, where it was even easier to learn to attack).

[Mahmut]

Thanks for replies. 1) is happening too often. 4) This sometimes happening not as often as 1)

I'm curious about what others think for slices against high balls like top spin. 2)

Would send a bug report next time i play.

[manutoo]

2) I got your Bug Report for the slice on clay ; I watched the first 2 games and saw only 1 problematic slice ; anyway, I tuned the backspin amount so it should have less slices like this one in the next update (coming tomorrow)

[Mahmut]

Thanks for your feedback, nice to hear the update. Earlier faced few more 'problematic' slices like that but i didn't reported anything. Then decided to report in that game. Also not only against high balls but sometimes slices drop really short and bounce little. Don't know the exact issue. The report i sent was probably about slice easily countering so well to my shot, and also bit fast to me.
About 1) Returns, i don't face often anymore although i'm not playing too often.