Career simulations - Episode 1

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Career simulations - Episode 1

Postby iopzzza » 03 Feb 2022, 17:17

Hello guys. This will be my new series, i plan to make career simulation of many players on TE4 (The goal is to see how well the game replicates real life careers). The way i do it? I go on seasons mode, pick the player i want and start from his First good year (by good i mean ranking around 20-30, so he has good enough stats to do some upsets here and there and to make the simulation more interesting.) I use pro 10 difficulty with Form of the day - off (that was changed numerous times, but i found that, off is the most realistic one). Every new year i pick the second option, Pick new season ranking strength, so for example if the player had injury in real life, he will perform slightly worse on that year (also i use the option Fast forward to the end of the Match , as u can guess probably).
First one which is simulated is of course , non other than Novak Djokovic. I was wondering when to start, but figured out that his 2006 stats are good enough for a start (and it turned out to be true) and stopped his career at 2025 (in real life i strongly believe this is the year when he will retire, 1 year after his last try at olympics. I also focus on that every big 3 player to play 5 olympic games in order to be fair between all). One thing in advance, dont be amazed by Year number 1 and weeks at number 1 stats, its completley normal, becuase other players are not as consistant as you, if u simulate with one player (reason for this is , if matches are simulated without 3D playing, the results are somewhat more random). Other thing to note is that, Big 3 (or big 3 + Murray and some others players) simulation will be a bit different in years and may be even tournaments, because of obvious reasons, as u can guess. The formula i use is 4 slams + 9 masters + 3 atp 500 + 1 atp 250 (usually before AO) + ATP Finals and Olympics (sorry Davis Cup lovers).

I am also wondering, should i write it year by year, or write the whole career at once? For this episode exactly, it will be whole career + year by year resume (i am wondering should i provide screenshots from every tournament), because its already simulated at full.
Also i am aware, this thing wont be liked by some people (i am a comlete tennis addict when there is tennis statistics :D), but if there is even one person who likes this i will continue doing it, because it takes absolutely no effort when i write code simultaneously (got a supercomputer from 2021) i just click a button every few minutes.
And lastly i am open to suggestions , which career to simulate next (you can write in the comments).

So , lets start.

2006 - It wont be much interesting as he wasnt that good , yet , but still some qf's here and there with the highlight being Basel trophy.
Finished the year 19.
2007 - Things started getting real.
SF's at AO, US open and Atp Finals. IW, Miami, Shangai - Finals. Won MC,Montreal,Cincinati,Beijing,Basel, Paris. Finished number 2.

2008 - Again a great year - SF and RG , Wimbledon and Shangai. Reached his first GS final at US Open (l. to Federer in 5th set tie break (2))
Again won Toronto, Cincinati, Basel + Doha and Miami. Won Bronze medal at Olympics after Losing to Nadal in sf, but beating Federer for the Bronze.
Finshed the year 2nd again, but lost the number 1 ranking because of RR loss at the ATP FINALS (otherwise he would be 1st.)

2009 - Second GS final - AO (l. to A.Montanes out of all people in 4 sets, 3/6 6/2 3/6 3/6 i was like wtf happened here).
Won Montreal, Cincinati, Beijin, Dubai,Doha. Finals at Indian Wells and Paris masters, SF at US open , Wimbledon and Miami.
Regardless , finished the year 1st for the first time in his career.

2010 - Here things, started to become little bit strange... Early loss at AO (R3 to John Isner) and he dropped the first place. He won Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Shangai, Paris and reached finals at Roland Garros (l. to Nadal 2/6 0/6 0/6)
Overall here i was starting to think the game really makes him underachieve, because he statwise he was already at the Federer and Nadal level , but there were so many random losses. Finished the year 2nd again.

2011 - As u would guess, 2011 was a great year for him. 10 titles overall. US open, Wimbledon , Atp Finals, Shangai, Cincinati, Indian Wells, Miami, Doha, Dubai,Basel. Additional final at AO (l. Nadal in 5 sets)
But overall, fantastic year for him. Needless to say he finished number 1.

2012 - Again a little bit unfortunate. 3 slam finals, but won only 1 - at Us open. Lost both AO and Wimby finals. Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Toronto, Cincinati, Paris winner and most importantly wont the Olympics in London.
Finished the year number 1.

2013 - Monstrous year with 12 titles. Won AO and Wimby, lost US Open final. Indian Wells, Madrid, Rome, Montreal and Paris champion + ATP Finals. Numerous other Finals and its pointless to say he finished number 1 for the 4th time in his career.

2014 - Another monstrous, but a little bit strange year. He did something that is may be unthinkable - He won All 9 masters + ATP FINALS. Had 94-4 record for the year, but reached barely 2 slam finals at US Open and Wimby and won only Wimbledon.
It was super sad because he had 4 losses, 3 of them at slams... (2 SF and 1 F) and one in Dubai.
Finished 1st for 5th time.

2015 - Unreplicated year, if u would ask me... I even posted a screenshot on the forum, with highest accumulated points ever. He finished the season 99-1 ( Only loss in Miami final to Federer 6/7 2/6). I think highest points he reached were 19850 (not quite sure).
1st for 6th time. Needless to say he won the calendar grand slam and completed Career grand slam with RG win.

2016 - Again monstrous year. Made it 5 in a row winning AO , but couldnt equal the record of Don Budge (6 in a row), because he lost to Goffin at RG SF.
Overall won 3 slams, Silver at Olympics (l. to Murray in 2 sets)
5 masters, 3 atp 500 and 1 atp 250 + ATP Finals (94 - 6 record).

1st for 7th time

2017 - Here the game replicates his real life injury, so by his standards he had disastrous year. He won no titles, reached only US final with a few other SF's. FInished the year Number 7.

2018 - He regrouped a bit, although reaching only 1 slam SF (at AO). Won 3 masters - Indian Wells, Miami and Parise + numerous other finals. Finished the year 3rd.

2019 - 3 GS Sf's. Only 2 masters, 2 atp 500 and 1 atp 250, and yet he Won Paris Masters and was 1st heading into ATP FINALS. Unfortunately he lost RR and finished the year 2nd.

2020 - A little bit more compared to 2019 - Won the US Open. (Lost early in other slams). Also won 3 masters at Indian Wells, Cincinnati and Shangai. Bronze Medal at Olympics.
Finished the year on high and got that number year end 1 for the 8th time.

2021 - Even better year, but still won only 1 slam - At Wimbledon. Lost Us open Final. Miami , Monte Carlo , Montreal, Cincinati masters were won. Finished the year 1st for 9th time.

2022 - As u could guess, his bad luck continues... Reached 3 GS FINALS. Was 1 set away, from clinching second RG title and doing Double Career GS and but 0/6 in the 5th set ,to Jackson Withrow.
Then lost Wimbledon final to H.Dellien out of all people in 5 sets, 4/6 at the 5th (he was leading 2-1 sets). I did not expect that, at all.
He recouped by winning his 6th US Open. Won only 2 masters this season - Toronto and Shangai + Final at Paris. Finished the year 1st for 10th. time

2023 - He really started to struggle now, although his stats were the same. He was subpar the whole year , winning only 1 masters title at Montreal, but dropped his first place after 40-th week (Beijing atp 500).
Finished 6 at the end.

2024 - He regrouped this year and was a very decent year. Unfortunatley he had bad luck again and lost the GS final he played Us Open l. to Swartzman in 5th set tiebreak... :( ).
He finished the year 1st for 11th time. Wining only 1 masters + 3 ATP 500 and 1 ATP 250, but that is to be expected as i told you in the beggining. As for OLYMPIADS in Paris 2024 - He lost in 2nd round.

2025 - His last year on tour. Again very good year for the 38th years old Novak. And again he was too unfortunate - Lost all 3 grand slam finals that he played. AO, WIM and US. Won Indian Wells, Cincinati and Monte Carlo, but for sure
i would've liked that he won one last slam, before retirement. Finished the year 1 for the unthinkable 12th time.

Now onto some screenshots and statistics.

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- His all time record of Points.

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- His career Stats

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- Career Titles.

Streak Stats.jpg
- Some Streak stats.

And lastly Records - AO finals - 3 won 3 lost. RG FINALS - 1 Won 3 Lost. Wimbledon 6 won 3 lost. Us Open - 6 won 6 lost.

Its an adequate record, but for a player like Djokovic you would expect may be a bit more... Overal - 16 titles out of 31 slams is little bit over 50 %, which doesnt really correspond with real life, so i think the game underperoforms him a little bit.

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I am happy to take any suggestions for the next one, or say if you want some additional screenshots from a tournaments or stuff. Hope someone likes this. :D :D
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Re: Career simulations - Episode 1

Postby VernieBoi » 05 Feb 2022, 13:13

Are you actually saying the game underperforms him just because he won 16 GS? I bet that´s the most by any player in the simulation or at least top 3 at worst. He literally finished first 12 times, maybe lower your expectations xd the game is just bit more fair to guys outside big 3, it makes it better imo.
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Re: Career simulations - Episode 1

Postby iopzzza » 05 Feb 2022, 16:57

VernieBoi wrote:Are you actually saying the game underperforms him just because he won 16 GS? I bet that´s the most by any player in the simulation or at least top 3 at worst. He literally finished first 12 times, maybe lower your expectations xd the game is just bit more fair to guys outside big 3, it makes it better imo.


First, i am not trying to be agressive with the quote - (He underperforms). I wanted to say, he might be underperforming , because of my expectations of the other big3 members.
Second , thanks for the interest, really.
Third, i expect other big 3 members to win more Slams for sure , but anything can happen.:).
And last, i think when u play this way (season mode and let the CPU play instead of you), the game favours your player a bit. But that's not a bad thing, if u ask me, beacuse non 3 players will be better , instead of losing R3, R4 at every big tournament.
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Re: Career simulations - Episode 1

Postby VernieBoi » 05 Feb 2022, 20:13

First, i am not trying to be agressive with the quote - (He underperforms). I wanted to say, he might be underperforming , because of my expectations of the other big3 members.
Second , thanks for the interest, really.
Third, i expect other big 3 members to win more Slams for sure , but anything can happen.:).
And last, i think when u play this way (season mode and let the CPU play instead of you), the game favours your player a bit. But that's not a bad thing, if u ask me, beacuse non 3 players will be better , instead of losing R3, R4 at every big tournament.


Yea I do these season simulations all the time and I can definitely see the game favouring my player a bit, not quite realistic when your predicted ranking is 16 for example and you end up 4th but whatever haha, if I could ask, in your simulation, did someone have more slams than Novak? I kinda doubt it but I still wonder.
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