[TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

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[TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby Guest » 14 Jun 2021, 18:23

I'm new to game didn't played TE2013 but i played like 20 hours TE4 and i understand the game its really great.
I played few times online and Slices on clay like an Offensive shot it is really difficult to control slices and i think either slices should get minus. or retriever should hit much faster after slice( hitting bit faster after slices maybe but its really not enough) i try to hit great shot after slices but slice is more efficient than my normal shots and very difficult to do acceleration against slices on clay.
It's not defensive shot it is offensive shot on clay very hard to defend against slices.

And one last thing i think in TE4 really difficult to defend. Attacking looks more easy an giving advantage to attackers.
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Re: [TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby manutoo » 15 Jun 2021, 05:24

Hello,

I'll try to tune a bit all that when I work on the gameplay.
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Re: [TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby Guest » 15 Jun 2021, 13:03

Okey .
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Re: [TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby topspinbackhand » 16 Jun 2021, 11:01

I think the main problem with backhand slices on clay is that they seem to get the shoulder height acceleration bonus, which is pretty weird, and causes them to reach 75 mph or more when using them on high balls. I'm not sure if that's intended or a bug.
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Re: [TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby manutoo » 17 Jun 2021, 10:03

It's not the shoulder acceleration that allows reaching 120km/h (75mph), but the Slice Mastery talent + the ball being high enough to be hit in front or slightly downward.
I'll have to redesign that Talent... :sweat:
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Re: [TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby Guest » 17 Jun 2021, 13:07

I don't think its about Slice mastery talent. Because i played either realistic or fair mode so Slice mastery talent was not allowed to use in these mods.
Its so strong even without talent:(
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Re: [TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby topspinbackhand » 17 Jun 2021, 15:30

Guest wrote:I don't think its about Slice mastery talent. Because i played either realistic or fair mode so Slice mastery talent was not allowed to use in these mods.
Its so strong even without talent:(


Yeah the slice is pretty strong overall even without slice mastery. It's the second best shot in the game after accelerations (not counting the serve). Personally I think the slice should be an almost entirely defensive shot for those without slice mastery, but a great and consistent rallying and net approach tool (think Steffi Graf, Feli Lopez, Pat Rafter or Ken Rosewall) with two points in slice mastery. Even so, Manu's definitely right in that there's some weirdness going on with slice mastery and high balls.
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Re: [TE4] Slices are OP on Clay

Postby manutoo » 18 Jun 2021, 05:34

My point about the Talent was about reaching 120km/h (as I was surprised at 1st it was possible to reach such a speed with the slice :shock: )
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