Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

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How much would you pay to get your name recorded and then played in the commentaries ?

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Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby TennisVoice » 21 May 2020, 12:33

So: following on from the first thread here regarding the commentary I'll be providing for TE4...

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...I'd like to solicit ideas and also ask an important question regarding the commentary we're looking to include in the game:

1) Are there any specific lines of commentary you'd like to hear included in the game? This is along the lines of phrases you might hear after a point is won or lost - e.g., are there any particularly memorable lines you remember from any of your favorite commentators that you'd like me to incorporate into the game? Do you have a humorous suggestion for how I might transition between points? If you give me a workable suggestion, you can be pretty certain I'll add it or adapt it in some way to make it work in the game: anything from the results of a Hawkeye review (good and bad challenges alike) to great winners to terrible errors and anything else is fair game here. (I'm very happy to write all of these lines myself, but I just thought I'd give everyone a chance to contribute if you want to.)

2) Would you be willing to pay extra to have me record your own name for inclusion in the game's commentary? This is an idea I've been kicking around with our esteemed host and game designer...I mentioned yesterday in the other commentary thread that I'm scripting a lot of the commentary lines in two parts, so that you might say "[Player X] has his work cut out for him," but instead of "[Player X]" you might reference the player's nationality or world ranking or age, etc. And I've specifically designed this system in a way that you could also include a player's surname instead of one of his or her attributes. Speaking as someone with a very unusual surname, I'm conscious that I've never heard my name in the commentary of any sports game, and I'd love to be able to hear lines like "And Kilfara is painting the lines with some regularity," or "Kilfara is one game away from winning the opening set."

So here's the thing: it *might* be possible to set up a facility through which you could buy DLC in the form of me recording your name for incorporation into the game. The way this might work is that you'd submit your payment and specify your surname and any pronunciation guidance you want to provide, and then within a week - and hopefully less! - I would record several versions of your name in different formulations and at different levels of intensity and enthusiasm; then you would receive those sound files with instructions on how to incorporate them into the game for use within the commentary module. In theory, you could do this multiple times - e.g., you could pay twice to get me to record your surname and also a nickname, and then you'd be able to incorporate both sets of recordings into TE4. (Note that the commentary will always work perfectly fine without your surname being added - whenever a two-part commentary line is called for, the commentary module will default to using one of the personal attributes of a player instead of a name if no names have been provided.)

We don't know how much we'd have to charge per name to make this sort of project viable, but in theory this would be a way to let you support the game and give us each a bit of additional reward for our efforts, while at the same time giving you a unique level of customization in TE4 that isn't available in most other sports games. (I have seen a few games in which you can pick from a limited set of surnames and have the commentary use that name in the game, but that normally only works if you have a surname which is fairly common in the English-speaking world.) Before we go too far down this rabbit hole, though, I'd like to know what everyone thinks of this idea - is it something that doesn't really matter to you? Is this a feature you'd be desperate to have? Or would your attitude depend largely on how much this sort of addition would cost? (When you answer those questions, please assume that you've already decided you like TE4 as a game, and also the commentary module within it.) :)
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby noys390 » 22 May 2020, 07:52

Hi Mr. Kilfera,
It sounds exciting to have such good commentaries, if you can let us know when it will get added to the game. Regarding your questions
1. One suggestion would be to include some funny lines on net cord shots.
2. I would like to get my name spelled out in the game. As I am a total offline gamer, I would also like to have the names spelled for the top atp player and few other players of my choice, to get included in the pay package.
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby Star56 » 26 May 2020, 18:47

Yes I would be willing to pay extra to have my name included in commentary! That would certainly add to the game.

Get creative with the commentary.

BOOM!

The Tape again!

Ugh...the tale of the tape!

He's just nasty when he tries that!
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby polakis » 27 May 2020, 07:41

I would like to pay in order to have my name in the game.
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby TennisVoice » 27 May 2020, 13:00

I see our host has added a one-question survey at the start of this thread now - your answer to that question would be very helpful. (I know your true answer will probably be "as little as I can get away with paying", but this does have to be financially viable for us to make it work as a project, so knowing your maximum level of enthusiasm will be very good for us to know.)

By the way, in terms of creative commentary, I remember commentating on a match involving Robin Haase in which Haase kept trying drop shot after drop shot and failing to win any of the points in which he did this. On about his sixth drop shot attempt, my commentary was just a massive sigh and nothing else - what else needed to be said? I remember someone laughing about that over on menstennisforums.com, and I'll probably try and find a way to include this in TE4. Just throwing this out there as a way of trying to get your creative juices flowing...thanks for the suggestions so far!
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby polakis » 27 May 2020, 15:53

What about atp/wta tennis star players? Can we pay for them also?
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby TennisVoice » 27 May 2020, 20:35

polakis wrote:What about atp/wta tennis star players? Can we pay for them also?

That's a tricky one, for licensing reasons. But if someone paid to have me record several hundred surnames for his personal use, and that person happened to put those recordings into a mod, and then he made that mod available to the public on a website we didn't control...no, I don't think we could officially allow that. :)
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby noys390 » 27 May 2020, 21:13

TennisVoice wrote:That's a tricky one, for licensing reasons. But if someone paid to have me record several hundred surnames for his personal use, and that person happened to put those recordings into a mod, and then he made that mod available to the public on a website we didn't control...no, I don't think we could officially allow that. :)


I guess the solution to this is not making the 'name' feature moddable. When most features in this game is not moddable why would you allow this one. I would very much want to have a few top atp names spelled out in offline games (may be 10). If you can add a separate package on this.
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Re: Feedback requested: commentary lines in TE4

Postby manutoo » 28 May 2020, 06:10

noys390,
1) the game will be fully moddable, like TE2013.

2) The legal ramifications, even without sharing the created content, is way out of my legal knowledge, and thus this would require to hire an expensive IP lawyer to try to get an idea of where this would lead us... :fear:
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