[TE4 World Tour] Doubles participation for Singles Players

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[TE4 World Tour] Doubles participation for Singles Players

Postby iopzzza » 26 Feb 2020, 05:17

Hello manutoo. I notice many top top players , like sampras , agassi, borg, djokovic , federer , nadal.. and other players doing a lots, a lots of doubles. Winning slam , being number 1 in doubles. All of this is affecting a lots their singles careers.. Sampras winning only 3 slams for the whole career, come on. Federer getting injury in doubles and cant play singles after this... how stupid it sounds. Mencroe winning 0 singles grand slams? ? How can i reduce significantly this thing and is there a way to not do it manually , because i have to do it for may be around thousand players for what i saw. I simulate currently massive test of 300 years and its soo annoying , noticing this. Please reduce by coding something , or i dont know...
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Re: Tennis Elbow 4 problem

Postby manutoo » 26 Feb 2020, 18:56

Hello,

1) Playing in Doubles usually doesn't impair their Singles activity ; although, I strongly lowered the risk injury in Doubles for the next update.

2) I checked Sampras and there were a couple of issues :
- he wasn't strong enough from 1993 to 1995 (3 years)
- Junior players had too low Topspin, bringing it into their Pro carrier, and thus all top clay players were top fast surface players, stealing a few slams from Sampras
- the skill determination engine was overestimating the influence of the service, leaving Sampras with a bit too low rally skills

So I fixed all that, and now Sampras has a good chance to win 9 or 10 slams per career (although he got only 2 slams once).

3) So the main issue left here is that despite winning not enough slams, he always gets around 16-19 master 1000, while in real life he got only 11. Sampras always played his best in Slams (it was especially true at Wimbledon and the US Open). Agassi is a bit problematic as well. Both of them dominated a bit less than the Big 4, and thus it's harder to simulate their carrier accurately.

For McEnroe, after the few fixes, it might get a bit better, but maybe he needs to get a boost as well, but I can't find ranking points before 1990, so I can't do it. :fear:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 4 problem

Postby iopzzza » 27 Feb 2020, 01:58

Dont worry, i known it can be tricky for the years of the past. Just wanted to state that we aim to realism and in real life top players doesnt play that much of a doubles and for sure dont win grand slam doubles with ease. I am glad you are making this improvement though :)
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Re: [TE4 World Tour] Doubles participation for Singles Playe

Postby manutoo » 27 Feb 2020, 21:06

Actually, for the Doubles, it's a choice I made : I took the year where the player played the most doubles, and use it as a base for his SingleDouble (instead of doing an average, or even a SingleDouble per year). I guess it's my way to promote doubles a bit... :) (ie: I don't aim for exact realism there)

I tested McEnroe to see if the changes I made helped or not, and he got 4 slams (in real he got 7), so it's not too bad, but still likely the same issue than Sampras.
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