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World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdaylttai » 19 Dec 2008, 22:47

I've been playing World Tour more often lately, and I think it's a lot more fun and realistic than its equivalent in TE 2006. However, I feel that some aspects could be improved. Many of these are just small things.

1. Would there be a way to add injuries into the game? This would need to be accompanied by a stat determining how prone to injuries a player is. I would think that it'd be best to have this only when playing against the CPU, because it'd make online play annoying if one person randomly got injured during a match.

2. WTF is with Carlos Berlocq? In my game, he beat Federer in Rome, and then followed it up by taking out Nadal in Roland Garros! I think he pulled some similar stunts in TE 06 also. Since Nadal has not lost at all at Roland Garros, I'd like to see him NEVER lose to someone like Berlocq, especially since I now have an easy path to the title.

3. Andy Roddick's serve should be at 100% power. Maybe it changes from the start of the season, but right now that stat is at a mere 91%! If Roddick's serve isn't the most powerful ever, I don't know what is.

4. David Nalbandian's forehand is NOT more consistent than his backhand. If one of his wings breaks down in a match, it's the forehand. I'm not sure whether it would be better to make the backhand more consistent or the forehand less consistent, but something should be changed there.

5. Robin Söderling has a two-handed backhand, not a one-hander.

I'll probably be adding to this list later, so be ready. :D
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 20 Dec 2008, 04:16

Ok, I have some stuff to say about Novak Djokovic:

6. His serve is as powerful as Roddick's (91%)! How can that be possible? Djokovic has a precise serve, but not an exceptionally powerful one.

7. I would say that his backhand is definitely not any more powerful than his forehand (possibly the forehand is a bit stronger), but it is more consistent. As it is now, it's the other way around.

8. He has a two-handed backhand, not a one-handed one.
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby manutoo » 20 Dec 2008, 07:03

Hello,

1- it won't have injuries in TE2009, only in the Manager

2- I guess he beat both of them when they were having a bad day... Also, he seems to be a clay specialist, that should help

3, 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8 : it'll be fixed for next update
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 22 Dec 2008, 08:13

More suggestions, lol.

Richard Gasquet's forehand right now is in the high 70s for skill. His backhand is in the mid 70s. Gasquet's backhand is in every way better than his forehand, and it is one of the best backhands in the game. I think the backhand should be in the 90s for every statistic but the forehand should be in the low 70s.
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby manutoo » 22 Dec 2008, 08:35

Gasquet tuned as well... ;)
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 22 Dec 2008, 21:29

I've got Federer next, so watch out.
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 23 Dec 2008, 00:31

Federer...

1. His backhand is better than it should be, but not by much. All the stats for it are in the mid 80s, and I think they should be probably in the high 70s or low 80s.

2. His forehand should be a little bit more powerful and a lot more precise. Maybe in the low 90s for power and high 90s for precision.

3. His serve should be in the high 90s or even 100 for precision. He can put that thing wherever he wants. However, I think its consistency and power are fine as is.
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 23 Dec 2008, 22:41

For once I have no suggestions about a player.Instead, I have some more general suggestions:

I think that the counterpuncher style AI comes to net a bit too often. They even serve-volley sometimes, which I couldn't see a real counterpuncher like Ferrer ever doing. Do AI players' tactics change when the surface changes? It seems that everyone comes to net more often on grass than clay.

Nadal once again had a bad day. This time he lost in the first round of Wimbledon to Michael Llodra. While I do think that this loss is a bit more believable than the one to Berlocq in RG, I think the upsets are coming too often. This made me wonder, what are the other factors than the players' skills that determine the winner in a CPU vs. CPU match? Which styles are more likely to win on which surface? If this isn't already in the Documentation, could you add something about it please?
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby manutoo » 24 Dec 2008, 06:36

Hello,

I slightly tuned Fed, but I guess u looked him on 2008, so when he was going to finish #2, while on previous years he was a bit stronger...

Ferrer is not a counterpuncher, he's a power baseliner...

Nalbandian, Hewit, Santoro are counterpuncher.

And yup, AI depends a bit of the surface.

In TE, Federer & Nadal are slightly less strong than in real life. It's to bring a bit more variety than we saw in real life in the past 5 years... :roll:

You can read more about the stats, player style & their effect in TEM doc :
http://www.managames.com/tennismanager/ ... _Game.html

For the TE score simulation engine, a player can't be excellent on both slow & fast surfaces (especially while being just good on average surfaces), so Nadal winning both RG & Wimbledon is a bit a problem... ;)
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 24 Dec 2008, 21:17

I guess I understand a bit more about the stuff you talked about. Even so, Federer does very well on both fast and slow surfaces: he made the final of RG and won Wimbledon on my tour. Now I have some more suggestions about players:

Feliciano Lopez's forehand is MUCH better than his backhand. I think the forehand should be in the low 80s, instead of in the mid 60s as it is now. His serve is also probably a bit better, though I'm not exactly sure what it is now. I think the serve should be in the mid 80s. Also, I've been debating back and forth with myself as to whether I think Lopez's style is varied or volleyer. He comes to net a lot, but not all the time, and not as much as some other players.

Marin Cilic's net skills are better than they are shown now, but I'm not really sure how much better. He comes to net much more often than a power baseliner like James Blake, so I think his style should be varied. He has a two-handed backhand.
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 26 Dec 2008, 06:41

Who is Jan Hajek and why are his groundstrokes good enough to get him into the top 30? In real life I don't think he's gotten higher than the 90s...
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby manutoo » 26 Dec 2008, 07:07

Tuned Lopez & Cilic .
But there's a problem with Cilic coz he has been flagged as an low ranked player, thus his birth year has been changed and his career stops in 2009 now, and I cannot change that without invalidating everybody's saved games... :?

About Hajek, I'm not sure what happened... Maybe his ranking was missing for 2008, and it was flagged as a future good player, while he is obviously not. So I just manually changed his rankings.
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 26 Dec 2008, 08:36

Amer Delic has a two-handed backhand. I don't know much more about him, otherwise I'd add other stuff.
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'09: W: 13 including Rome, Madrid, RG, Wimby, Cincy, USO
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 26 Dec 2008, 21:52

I'm wondering about some country abbreviations: Switzerland's is CHE, Croatia's is HRV, and Zimbabwe's is ZAF. There might be others of these that don't make sense to me, but as for the ones I mentioned I'd suggest SUI, CRO, and ZIM respectively.

Now for some suggestions about Andy Murray:

His backhand is definitely more consistent and precise than his forehand, but probably a little bit less powerful. As it is now, I think those stats are switched.

As I already mentioned in the outfits thread, Andy looks more like Almagro than himself.

His playing style is very well done, he plays very similarly to the real Andy Murray. (Don't think I'd ever see Almagro play like that though :P)
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2010 Singles: 66-10 (no wo (4))
2010 Doubles: 21-11
2009 Singles: 105-14 (no WO (6))
2009 Doubles: 11-8
Best Results:
'10: W: AO, Miami, Casa, Barca, Rome, Stuttgart, Hamburg, Cincy
'09: W: 13 including Rome, Madrid, RG, Wimby, Cincy, USO
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Re: World Tour Suggestions

Postby Togtdyalttai » 27 Dec 2008, 00:12

After playing Andy Roddick again, I think that his style of varied isn't that accurate. He is probably more of a puncher because he doesn't come to net as often as, say, Federer.

Also, some more country abbreviations: CHL for Chile should be CHI and MCO for Monaco should be MON.
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2010 Doubles: 21-11
2009 Singles: 105-14 (no WO (6))
2009 Doubles: 11-8
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'09: W: 13 including Rome, Madrid, RG, Wimby, Cincy, USO
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