Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

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Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Yasin Ozkan » 01 Dec 2013, 05:08

Ok,

Here's my opinion.
Tennis Elbow = 100 FH 100 BH + 0 topsin
...

Its all about those del potro strokes, and they make less faults too. Even tho their netplay and smash is 0, they get enough skill too defend theirself.

Topspin players have all the disadvanages.
Oh wait a minute, let me try use the slice.. ah crap I forgot, there's also topspin on my slice so I wont be able the keep the ball low.
Or maybe short slice ? Nope, most of them fly to the baseline anyway..

Sorry Manuto but your game is a true potential game wasted.. FAIL!

The only hope I still have is for the ITST patch.
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby manutoo » 01 Dec 2013, 06:39

Hello,

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There are also another players who complained to me that topspin was overpowered.

With high topspin, you get :
- better defense
- better short accel, thus better passing shot for almost same attack efficiency that low topspin
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Yasin Ozkan » 01 Dec 2013, 08:13

I don't know about them, but let 2 players from the same skill play each other, one with topspin and the other without, the topspin guy will get destroyed..
The topspin system in this game ruins the realism.
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby testo » 01 Dec 2013, 09:09

not agree at all !!

Most of the top 10 online players use top spin > 50% and the effect is really exagerated ,it causes a lot of error for the opponent !

"The topspin system in this game ruins the realism." : i agree, it's too exagerated. Try to play @0% topspin vs player @80% top spin, you will understand
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby testo » 01 Dec 2013, 09:50

Look at this match vc Muster (100% lift)

Lot of my shots are out and i don't know why

Some of his balls are 3 to 5m height !!

Too much top spin is unfaire, that's all !
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Heinrich von Westphalen » 01 Dec 2013, 10:29

seb wrote:Look at this match vc Muster (100% lift)

Lot of my shots are out and i don't know why

Some of his balls are 3 to 5m height !!

Too much top spin is unfaire, that's all !


Don't take it personally but your movement, court overview and positioning is simply awful. That's why you do this faults ... 100% TS isn't easy but with practise controlable. Try to hit a winner with 100 TS and you will understand the balance. ;)

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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Kuga » 01 Dec 2013, 10:33

I also dont agree with you.Topspin player has more advantage infact if they have gud movement they are best on slow surfaces
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby testo » 01 Dec 2013, 10:47

Heinrich von Westphalen wrote:Don't take it personally but your movement, court overview and positioning is simply awful. That's why you do this faults ... 100% TS isn't easy but with practise controlable. Try to hit a winner with 100 TS and you will understand the balance. ;).


Positioning awful ?? for some shots for which i have to run and to hit at the limit, ok but for others, i played replay and the position was ok !!

Tell me more, i don't understand your answer....
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby testo » 01 Dec 2013, 11:37

Look only on my serve return in slice !! almost all out !! why ??

i really become crazy ...
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby testo » 01 Dec 2013, 12:37

don't forget it's a game !! we move the player with keyboard and the unitary move is big in comparison with reality so we can't have as much precision as in reality !

And if you want to reproduce reality with the placement/position of the player so take in account what i said here to respect reality :

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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Yasin Ozkan » 02 Dec 2013, 05:10

The problem with topspin is, you're stuck hitting high balls. therefore you can't hit winners, even on soft balls, especially against master levels.

It's not realistic, there should be a feature to flatten out strokes.

What good players do against high topspin players is, they stand behind the baseline and wait for you to make mistakes, because all your balls will drop far, even short strikes. The slice is higher too so easy to counter (The slice in this game is useless anyway).

The game is too arcade. Even in defensive shots all the balls are always just above the net, because the topspin is 0. These kinda shots should be either the net, or higher with slower velocity. You need topspin in tennis. I hope I could clarify myself, because my english is poor.
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Heinrich von Westphalen » 02 Dec 2013, 07:23

yasinozkan wrote:The problem with topspin is, you're stuck hitting high balls.

That is the reason to play with topspin. :roll:
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Yasin Ozkan » 02 Dec 2013, 08:20

Heinrich von Westphalen wrote:That is the reason to play with topspin. :roll:


Yes, have you ever heard flatting out strokes ? Hence the word "stuck". Take Nadal for example, he has huge topspin, and he also flattens out his forehand to hit that winner.
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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby Heinrich von Westphalen » 02 Dec 2013, 09:18

yasinozkan wrote:Yes, have you ever heard flatting out strokes ? Hence the word "stuck". Take Nadal for example, he has huge topspin, and he also flattens out his forehand to hit that winner.


But there's no problem to hit winners with topspin ... so I don't understand where's the problem. I play with 80% TS on slow (clay) and semislow (NewLine, BG) surfaces and haven't any problem to hit winners from baseline online and offline. And Nadals famous inside in / outs are played with big topspin as well.

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Re: Why is this game such an anti-topspin game ?!

Postby n 201 » 02 Dec 2013, 14:20

Well Manutoo, i think this topic has some imp. point in it.... Its the slices of topspin players. Why does slice shots move so slow for topspin guys also with lot of bounce on it.... When i slice with topspin then i see my opponent overpowering me all the time. The slice should be made better for topspin stuff. I think it is really annoying to see ur slices bounce like a dropshot lol :annoyed:
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