Mana Games

[Blacky]

that has nothing to do because you're American...omg

it has do to with bunch of players who quit playing because of numerous of reasons, from who you learned how to play...

[Blacky]

Togt what just happened??

Do not post anything on site, until we tell you to!

[ahmedcoolio]

Ok ive read all your posts and this what i think

1)Zuzana forcing you to play wasnt entirely wrong because it was already getting soo late.But if you guys would have played earlier this could have been avoided.

2)About the desyncs-lot can be debated about it.When desyncs happen ,sometimes both players see different things.For example i might see that i hit a winner and the other player might see on his screen that it stopped in the middle or it was out-Trust me whatever im saying here is with a lot of experience and observation-so im not sure if zuzana saw that you won that point and if he did and dint give the point to you then its sad.
Actually there are very few players who let you the point and in tournaments it makes a lot of difference when they dont give you the point .
So its a request to all players to keep it fair everyone just give the point to your opponent if he wins it whenevr desyncs happen,coz because it gets frustrating and annoying which leads to lapse concentration.

3)and rofed about nations cup match with you ,we dint really have such short deadlines there so we could play comfortably but i remember well ,how you used to force me to play but we did sometimes continue later when i refused to play when you wanted me to.Well lets leave this case aside for now ,no point in discussing it now.

4) @Zuzana- whenever your playing your matches atleast for your tournament matches do not frequently go to the chat window unless there is a problem.I know you dont have any wrong intentions for doing that but it sometimes gets on the nerves of the player when he is trying his best to be focused and concentrated and by chatting with him he might forget for a moment what he had planned to do etc etc.

And when you guys tried to play the 1st time and when rofed was leading i believe you dint want to restart .Well rofed has all the right to ask you to continue from where you had left.If your oppoent says that he is ok with restarting then its all cool.But rofed wanted to continue and why not, he could have had a chance to break. well we cant be totally sure as anything could have happened.But still you should have continued.

Guys please use mild language and specially rofed please.Im going to edit whatever words i find inappropriate and dont let this happen again .

About our decision I or any of the mods will be posting here soon after we have a discussion.

[oohzuzana]

Ok ive read all your posts and this what i think

1)Zuzana forcing you to play wasnt entirely wrong because it was already getting soo late.But if you guys would have played earlier this could have been avoided.

2)About the desyncs-lot can be debated about it.When desyncs happen ,sometimes both players see different things.For example i might see that i hit a winner and the other player might see on his screen that it stopped in the middle or it was out-Trust me whatever im saying here is with a lot of experience and observation-so im not sure if zuzana saw that you won that point and if he did and dint give the point to you then its sad.
Actually there are very few players who let you the point and in tournaments it makes a lot of difference when they dont give you the point .
So its a request to all players to keep it fair everyone just give the point to your opponent if he wins it whenevr desyncs happen,coz because it gets frustrating and annoying which leads to lapse concentration.

3)and rofed about nations cup match with you ,we dint really have such short deadlines there so we could play comfortably but i remember well ,how you used to force me to play but we did sometimes continue later when i refused to play when you wanted me to.Well lets leave this case aside for now ,no point in discussing it now.

4) @Zuzana- whenever your playing your matches atleast for your tournament matches do not frequently go to the chat window unless there is a problem.I know you dont have any wrong intentions for doing that but it sometimes gets on the nerves of the player when he is trying his best to be focused and concentrated and by chatting with him he might forget for a moment what he had planned to do etc etc.

And when you guys tried to play the 1st time and when rofed was leading i believe you dint want to restart .Well rofed has all the right to ask you to continue from where you had left.If your oppoent says that he is ok with restarting then its all cool.But rofed wanted to continue and why not, he could have had a chance to break. well we cant be totally sure as anything could have happened.But still you should have continued.

Guys please use mild language and specially rofed please.Im going to edit whatever words i find inappropriate and dont let this happen again .

About our decision I or any of the mods will be posting here soon after we have a discussion.

I've been pretty quiet about what happened in the match, so let me just clear up a few things.

First of all, the desyncs happened in the first few points of the match that we actually ended up restarting, because of the desyncs AND because it was on the wrong surface (B-G Cement instead of Indoor Hard). So they really didn't have an impact on the match.

Secondly, and more importantly, like you said, players see different things on desyncs sometimes (which is why they are desyncs). I did NOT see Ro. Fed winning those points, I saw myself winning those points. If I had seen Ro. Fed winning them, I definitely would have let him win them in the re-do. You can ask just about anyone who has played me--I am very generous with giving people points for desyncs that I see them as having won. In fact, I played Tati Cornet recently (in 09) and wound up giving him like six points because of this.

Ro Fed. NEVER had a 0-30 lead to start the match. None of the points were registering, and like I said I did not see him winning them. I am always up for resetting the score to what it was (ask almost anyone I've played), but this was never the score. Also, to some how infer that the first two points of the match made a difference by the time it was 6-5 in the third is ridiculous.

As far as chatting goes, I admit sometimes I do it to much (always out of friendliness, never strategy), but this match was not a case of that at all. I did almost no chatting (especially since my Shift+F key) no longer works . The person who was pausing constantly was Ro. Fed, including completely strategic pauses. When I had break points at 15-40, 5-5 in the third, he paused the game for over a minute. Again when I got to match point at 6-5, he again paused for a long period of time, eventually leaving.

Furthermore, he was being constantly abusive in his constant chat. Tons of profanity (that I should've screen-capped), saying that I was a cheater because I was American and it was in my blood. He also flooded the chat with "nice shot"s and "thanks"s whenever I would hit an error.

I do not think you can overturn this match. I had match point on serve when he quit. I was completely on the verge of winning. It is that simple.

[oohzuzana]

that has nothing to do because you're American...omg

it has do to with bunch of players who quit playing because of numerous of reasons, from who you learned how to play...

I know it has nothing to do with us being American, and I know a lot of the best people have quit. I just thought it was kind of a cool stat that a country that has no one in the top ten could win a tournament for five straight weeks.

[TTennisfan]

Ok ive read all your posts and this what i think

1)Zuzana forcing you to play wasnt entirely wrong because it was already getting soo late.But if you guys would have played earlier this could have been avoided.

2)About the desyncs-lot can be debated about it.When desyncs happen ,sometimes both players see different things.For example i might see that i hit a winner and the other player might see on his screen that it stopped in the middle or it was out-Trust me whatever im saying here is with a lot of experience and observation-so im not sure if zuzana saw that you won that point and if he did and dint give the point to you then its sad.
Actually there are very few players who let you the point and in tournaments it makes a lot of difference when they dont give you the point .
So its a request to all players to keep it fair everyone just give the point to your opponent if he wins it whenevr desyncs happen,coz because it gets frustrating and annoying which leads to lapse concentration.

3)and rofed about nations cup match with you ,we dint really have such short deadlines there so we could play comfortably but i remember well ,how you used to force me to play but we did sometimes continue later when i refused to play when you wanted me to.Well lets leave this case aside for now ,no point in discussing it now.

4) @Zuzana- whenever your playing your matches atleast for your tournament matches do not frequently go to the chat window unless there is a problem.I know you dont have any wrong intentions for doing that but it sometimes gets on the nerves of the player when he is trying his best to be focused and concentrated and by chatting with him he might forget for a moment what he had planned to do etc etc.

And when you guys tried to play the 1st time and when rofed was leading i believe you dint want to restart .Well rofed has all the right to ask you to continue from where you had left.If your oppoent says that he is ok with restarting then its all cool.But rofed wanted to continue and why not, he could have had a chance to break. well we cant be totally sure as anything could have happened.But still you should have continued.

Guys please use mild language and specially rofed please.Im going to edit whatever words i find inappropriate and dont let this happen again .

About our decision I or any of the mods will be posting here soon after we have a discussion.

I've been pretty quiet about what happened in the match, so let me just clear up a few things.

First of all, the desyncs happened in the first few points of the match that we actually ended up restarting, because of the desyncs AND because it was on the wrong surface (B-G Cement instead of Indoor Hard). So they really didn't have an impact on the match.

Secondly, and more importantly, like you said, players see different things on desyncs sometimes (which is why they are desyncs). I did NOT see Ro. Fed winning those points, I saw myself winning those points. If I had seen Ro. Fed winning them, I definitely would have let him win them in the re-do. You can ask just about anyone who has played me--I am very generous with giving people points for desyncs that I see them as having won. In fact, I played Tati Cornet recently (in 09) and wound up giving him like six points because of this.

Ro Fed. NEVER had a 0-30 lead to start the match. None of the points were registering, and like I said I did not see him winning them. I am always up for resetting the score to what it was (ask almost anyone I've played), but this was never the score. Also, to some how infer that the first two points of the match made a difference by the time it was 6-5 in the third is ridiculous.

As far as chatting goes, I admit sometimes I do it to much (always out of friendliness, never strategy), but this match was not a case of that at all. I did almost no chatting (especially since my Shift+F key) no longer works . The person who was pausing constantly was Ro. Fed, including completely strategic pauses. When I had break points at 15-40, 5-5 in the third, he paused the game for over a minute. Again when I got to match point at 6-5, he again paused for a long period of time, eventually leaving.

Furthermore, he was being constantly abusive in his constant chat. Tons of profanity (that I should've screen-capped), saying that I was a cheater because I was American and it was in my blood. He also flooded the chat with "nice shot"s and "thanks"s whenever I would hit an error.

I do not think you can overturn this match. I had match point on serve when he quit. I was completely on the verge of winning. It is that simple.

Yes i won those points i remember very well

[Santiago92]

Yes i won those points i remember very well

I think you should read again, when you get desyncs it means that you could see that you win the point and your opponent that he win the point...

Ah, I know, your answer will be an insult for me...

[TTennisfan]

No lol no insults, but just btw U know the succesor of CT will be TheTennisGame released on 31st october.


Will give you more information soon, and
Martin Copes is the admin now, not Emmanuel Santos

[Santiago92]

For your information, there was a game called TheTennisGame 2 years ago in Argentina...

And more information, the real name of Martin Copes is Hector Roca, he plays Onlinetennis and he is a GREAT cheater.

So is that an advice? Well, thanks, I won't register in a game where the admin is a cheater.

[TTennisfan]

LOL, Martin's real name isn't Hector Rota, he told me because of something that he couldn't register with his name, but trust me his real is Martin even his msn it's martin
martin, martin martin clear?

[Togtdaylttai]

Ok, what does this conversation have to do with Madrid?

[Santiago92]

LOL, Martin's real name isn't Hector Rota, he told me because of something that he couldn't register with his name, but trust me his real is Martin even his msn it's martin
martin, martin martin clear?

Suppose it's really. He had few months ago a game where the keys weren't unlocked, so he could see the keys of all people who register in the game, is that fair?

OK. Will you be a cheater's helper?

[TTennisfan]

I didn't know that , but if we all see that he's cheating on this game, we are going to quit the game, buut at least try it