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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby Mashapova Por » 18 Dec 2012, 19:16

Tristan von Blomberg wrote:For your problem of stolen key exists a topic => topic15-2037.php ... and I think he has already been said about the new update.

R u a mod? R u Manutoo? No, just stay where you belong and leave issues to Manutoo and us. Stick to your life
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby Eraser » 18 Dec 2012, 19:31

Mashapova Por wrote: No, just stay where you belong and leave issues to Manutoo and us. Stick to your life


... said the right one alias SPCs nanny. :roll:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby StivenT » 18 Dec 2012, 20:10

This build sucks manu :S

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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby SPC » 18 Dec 2012, 20:19

Eraser wrote:
... said the right one alias SPCs nanny. :roll:

Be brave enough to post with your real nick, coward otherwise stfu. :yes:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby Ayoub rima » 18 Dec 2012, 22:58

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LoL i don't need to watch real tennis :thinking: Cauz i'm a player and don't comparative this game to the truth because we do not need it :fear: In fact there are a lot of factors that make you earn or lose points :unsure: & to make you sure i don't give much time for this game :dance: :dance: :dance: and i'm not a club & not good But if you think that you are good you should play in any build Without destroying
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby manutoo » 19 Dec 2012, 04:07

SPC,
could you reformulate your issue with the short slice ? I don't understand what you mean in your 1st message.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby SPC » 19 Dec 2012, 04:12

manutoo wrote:SPC,
could you reformulate your issue with the short slice ? I don't understand what you mean in your 1st message.

When i receive a topspin shot and i use a slice down the line, the end result is a short slice :yes:, and it happens a lot of times :annoyed:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby VMoe86 » 19 Dec 2012, 12:14

SPC wrote:When i receive a topspin shot and i use a slice down the line, the end result is a short slice :yes:, and it happens a lot of times :annoyed:

My theory about it: Hitting a standard slice late will result in shorter standard slice. With these new stats in Fair Mode, the consistency is lowered and these standard slices will be shorter more regularly. These short standard slices can be attacked easily and are quite different from a well-executed real short slice.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby SPC » 19 Dec 2012, 14:08

Its the same, i have played in all modes, actually fair the least i have played with these last updates, and the short slice is hit with such ease so many times that its kind of ridiculous.
And no you are not right about it (short slice effectiveness), when you are in a well contested rally, that shot slice dropshot really changes everything, normally i receive a short reply back and i can hit a cross court backhand winner most of the time or my oponnent makes a silly mistake.

And this playing against very good players like Vika Azarenka and Stiven Tenjo.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby VMoe86 » 19 Dec 2012, 14:42

SPC wrote:And no you are not right about it (short slice effectiveness), when you are in a well contested rally, that shot slice dropshot really changes everything, normally i receive a short reply back and i can hit a cross court backhand winner most of the time or my oponnent makes a silly mistake.

And this playing against very good players like Vika Azarenka and Stiven Tenjo.

Read again: I did not say anything about actual short slice effectiveness, only about the effectiveness of a standard slice being hit late (and thus being shorter than usual).
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby djarvik » 19 Dec 2012, 16:57

It seems to me that short slice is effective against people playing far from the baseline, which is logical. Playing against someone who is on the baseline or a 1-2 feet back it is not nearly as effective. I think the way you handle that slice is what makes or breaks its effectiveness. The issue is not "getting there", 9/10 times you will be able to put your racket on it, so the issue is what shot/play counters it. To me, the counters are: short slice back, drop shot, long slice and volley. Hitting a regular shot of a "biting" low slow slice is not logical. I bet if you "punish" the opponent a few times with a "proper" response to short slice - he will be really careful about using it.

If one is having hard time "getting" to the short slice, then one must be standing too far from the baseline on rallies, or, one needs to work on his "moving forward" reactions.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby Dasp » 19 Dec 2012, 17:04

djarvik wrote:It seems to me that short slice is effective against people playing far from the baseline, which is logical. Playing against someone who is on the baseline or a 1-2 feet back it is not nearly as effective. I think the way you handle that slice is what makes or breaks its effectiveness. The issue is not "getting there", 9/10 times you will be able to put your racket on it, so the issue is what shot/play counters it. To me, the counters are: short slice back, drop shot, long slice and volley. Hitting a regular shot of a "biting" low slow slice is not logical. I bet if you "punish" the opponent a few times with a "proper" response to short slice - he will be really careful about using it.

If one is having hard time "getting" to the short slice, then one must be standing too far from the baseline on rallies, or, one needs to work on his "moving forward" reactions.

A slice or a short slice across the line moving forward to the net is very effective, at least it works nicelly with me
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby Ayoub rima » 19 Dec 2012, 17:23

It works nicelly with me too
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby manutoo » 20 Dec 2012, 05:07

SPC,
it's either what VMoe86 said, or you pressed up by mistake during your slice preparation.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0f

Postby Elias » 20 Dec 2012, 05:34

manutoo wrote:- Gameplay : forehand strike is triggered a bit earlier when turning around your backhand
- Gameplay : Auto Step Back can now trigger only once before each strike, and can't trigger more than 0.6 second after your opponent stroke the ball


By the way, late movement/positionning feels much better imo in the last builds thanks to these tweaks :jap: .
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