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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Voja » 14 Mar 2012, 22:23

Well ,I have to say that defenders have nothing now, no extra accelerations, no net jumps and same speed as every other style, and most important of all , people can hit winners on perfect spins that have never been possible to attack in such way. Just think about it, counters have amazing shots ( not fair also ) , and they hit some deep balls from defense without any reason, and not on purpose...and have jumps on net. Punchers and PBs have more accelerations and jumps on the net, and they all get into perfect spins so easy, and just place the winner. Overall, defenders have lost everything that defined our game, MY game.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby makro » 15 Mar 2012, 00:09

Hi manu,

thanks for the new version. General gameplay is constantly improving. I like it!

Special thanks by me for implementing the "Form Of The Day" feature request. It's Perfect! I use it in pure random mode with Min -0.5 / Max +1.0 / Avg for both +/- 0.25 and GoodDayRate 50% and the offline carreer mode is phantastic now. Had enourmous trouble with Llodra in R3 Winbly when he had "Form of the day" +0.89. So much fun to play now, cos I can not be sure that I destroy Llodra just once again in straight sets before playing the match...

Thumbs up!

PS: What i don't really get: In mode 0 the "Form of the day" is almost always +-0.0x. So nearly no deviation.
In mode 2 (else) what should be a combined calculation of mode 0 and 1 very strange results appear. Even higher deviation than parameter Max + (1.0) happend. In a test an opponent had +1.58. I switched back to random mode (1) and that mode works like a charm! So it's fine for me...
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby manutoo » 15 Mar 2012, 05:40

makro,
you should set to BlendRandom to something between 0 & 1, but not 2 ; example, set it to 0.5 to mix 50% of Mental and 50% of Random ; in such case, you'll have less often ~0% and less often extremes as well.
There's a lot of 0% with Mental coz most top players have good mental skills so they usually play at their normal level or very close of it (it's the same system than TeManager, if you tried it).
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Chris Jacob » 15 Mar 2012, 13:42

Vojatenis wrote:Well ,I have to say that defenders have nothing now, no extra accelerations, no net jumps and same speed as every other style, and most important of all , people can hit winners on perfect spins that have never been possible to attack in such way. Just think about it, counters have amazing shots ( not fair also ) , and they hit some deep balls from defense without any reason, and not on purpose...and have jumps on net. Punchers and PBs have more accelerations and jumps on the net, and they all get into perfect spins so easy, and just place the winner. Overall, defenders have lost everything that defined our game, MY game.



and when defender style had amazing shots and counter stlye not it wasnt a problem for you because you are a defender lol...
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Voja » 15 Mar 2012, 20:42

If it was so easy being a defender why werent everybody a one ? because it wasnt easy at all :) nor overpowered , look at this situation now , every 3rd player ISNT a counter one :wink: the game is broken , and on ur q why dont i change to some other style - i am good with other styles, ive even won some masters without spin and now i play only some exos with other styles , but i promised myself i wont play with another one on tour , and why ? because it is way much fun to play with that kind of a style , and it is pretty rare and ALWAYS was :wink: Manu keep ignoring my posts :roll:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Chris Jacob » 15 Mar 2012, 20:56

you dont play because you are beatable with the new version :love9:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Voja » 15 Mar 2012, 21:03

Kimiko Date Krumm wrote:you dont play because you are beatable with the new version :love9:

that doesnt make any sense ? ure offending human population :roll:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Chris Jacob » 16 Mar 2012, 01:43

this is my opinion...and dont try to humbling me..lol
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby manutoo » 16 Mar 2012, 05:49

Vojatenis,
you should read my previous posts...
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Stajus » 24 Mar 2012, 14:20

manutoo wrote:BTW, I'll also raise a bit the Defender topspin depth, so he'll be able to defend a bit more easily.

That will just make defenders overpowered again, it will be balanced now once you tune those ridiculous counter benefits (it was unfair for defenders in Dubai/Acapulco because the movement speed was simply pathetic ;) )...Watch the .dmo attached, almost impossible to hit through...net the only hope :roll:...
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Raz » 27 Mar 2012, 22:01

Manu can u plz improve Fed's forehand so it looks more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Z3I7yzuh8 ! You made the perfect djokovic and nadal forehands but now its time for Feds!
Also, what about creating a Federer haircut? im sure there are many Fed fans out there who would wanna use it. The ones in the game are either too long or too short.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Giacomo » 31 Mar 2012, 12:20

How about the possibility to save training matches? It would be very nice! :wink:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Mohamed » 31 Mar 2012, 23:33

Manu, Miami is done, waiting for the new version...

It would be also cool if you read that topic15-6400.php#p89325
I find it really interesting.. :wink:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Maxy » 31 Mar 2012, 23:37

I can't wait to see the new version...
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Stajus » 31 Mar 2012, 23:53

Manutoo, any other French people sending you PMs? Please help them improve by changing the versions :lol:
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