Mana Games

[Florian]

Your anti-counter reduction hasn't made any difference...try harder Also, the speed isn't high enough (but has improved a bit), due to a simple reason - someone hits a short cross acceleration and if you're the type of player that likes to slice (for example DTL), the next short cross to the other side is physically UNGETTABLE...on the other hand, if someone hits a short cross acceleration and you spin the ball DTL, you are able to defend the next short cross to the other side...What kind of joke is this? Federer, Murray, etc. all employ slice defence with more success than spin defence, get real Watch the Djokovic vs Murray Madrid '11 match, slice defence, slice defence, slice defence...And you're directly affecting everyone that likes to slice, including myself, and propelling some addicted counters that spin the ball and abuse the unlimited accelerations Oh, unlimited accelerations...again, what a joke? They should receive a bonus of +5 accelerations at max (or even +4)...unlimited is a disgrace Power baseliners have +3, right? Once a puncher/baseliner runs out of acceleration he's left to run around like a dog while the counter can pick lines with 100 accelerations...hello? Show me a match in real life where this is the case? Hello? Yes, exactly. Never has there been a match where one guy can POUND the ball 100000 times while the other can't hit a hard shot back (smoke, since no accelerations are remaining)....

Sort this game out for once...enough freaking bullshit.

Cheers.

Funny to see people who are not counter claiming that the anti-counter reduction hasn't made any difference , i can feel it made some difference because i had more yellow errors and had to defend deep flukes attacks further behind the baseline in order to avoid errors...
+ you just wish you could slice counters to death hoping that they wouldn't ever be able to take advantage of it because counter shots aren't as powerfull as puncher's attacks...
Even daring to write that you seriously think it would be realistic to be able to catch any short cross shows how unrealistic your vision of tennis is.

Btw funny you haven't complained once about counters last season and now you can't think about anything else, may you explain us why all that tantrum all the sudden ?

[Stajus]

You don't have a clue seriously - it's not about catching a vicious short acceleration that catches you off guard (I accept those can be winners unless you react fast enough), it's about catching the second one (after you have already reached the first tough one and the second one is off a slice so it's a lot slower but the player can't reach it in these versions)...I have always complained about unlimited accelerations, that's pretty much one of the BIGGEST flaws in this game, and has been for a long time...Even Mr.Schmith thought that defenders with spin and unlimited accelerations aren't fair concepts. Now defenders are completely destroyed and you aren't complaining either Get real...

[Chris Jacob]

you are boring

[vamos rafa]

I have always complained about unlimited accelerations, that's pretty much one of the BIGGEST flaws in this game,[/b] Get real...

Why are you so keen on ruining counter style . There are more errors than usual already.

Standing in middle of the court and running to sides to return the serve is indeed a bigger flaw than this. You seem to give real life tennis examples to support your arguement. Tell me one player who returns like this So I guess its time to eliminate this as well?

There is no point comparing this game to real life tennis. You cant hit volley winners at 145 km/h shots in real tennis consistently without making errors unlike TE

And yes that left right speed advantage, where you stand at one side and start running at the other side of the court, so realistic no?

Flaws will be always there, so stop complaining.

Get real

[Dr.Ivo]

I tried every single link, every single way, even the download manager, but nothing, i cant download it I dont know what to do, any other suggestion?

[Alen]

Funny to see people who are not counter claiming that the anti-counter reduction hasn't made any difference , i can feel it made some difference because i had more yellow errors and had to defend deep flukes attacks further behind the baseline in order to avoid errors...
+ you just wish you could slice counters to death hoping that they wouldn't ever be able to take advantage of it because counter shots aren't as powerfull as puncher's attacks...
Even daring to write that you seriously think it would be realistic to be able to catch any short cross shows how unrealistic your vision of tennis is.

Btw funny you haven't complained once about counters last season and now you can't think about anything else, may you explain us why all that tantrum all the sudden ?

Yup! I agree with you. I play with counter style "already" 4 months, and frankly I've also noticed many difference with this last version!

I do not know why so many people want to weaken this style.....If you think that is so easy to play with this style, becomes also you counter....

[Stajus]

you are boring

you can't beat anyone so I don't see how you can discuss this game at the top level in singles...Ok, in doubles you are a top player, but that's got nothing to do with this discussion, so calm down...

@vamos rafa: Defender style is destroyed but you don't say a word about that? If there are N styles in a game, and just 1 is completely inferior (if we assume just the defenders with 30 spin are inferior ), it means the game is not balanced properly; every style should have the same chance of prevailing...And that type of returning is 1 shot per rally while unlimited accelerations are 20 shots per rally with 140+ kmh...you get real instead Plus, 99% of TE returns like that...You and Florian also fluke deep returns constantly which is a disgrace especially seeing how POOR slices are (due to the lack of running speed and the shots that are too fast in general for this speed), and it is impossible to defend during the point after those returns...

Now I just played Zeka, ofcourse a TB (I won but I don't care about that unlike you addicts...once the game is as realistic as possible the better players shine through ), TB after TB after TB after TB, unless you can fluke deep returns and fluke a break from it...What is wrong with some people here is beyond me...now the game is just about serves and returns, nothing else...it's clear who likes that (hi Florian ^^) And again, both of us sliced 2 times in a row on a few occassions and lost every single point in this case IMMEDIATELY (2nd short cross acceleration in a row)...I've been following tennis since 1993 and I can tell a joke when I see one. This is a joke.

[vamos rafa]

@vamos rafa: Defender style is destroyed but you don't say a word about that?

Atleast its better than the last version. No one complained this much when was the game was so defender friendly. Now that you dont have only one thing going for you complain to an extent of going for refund What about the overpowered volley style? Tell me how many times one has managed to break the 100 100 100 100 volleyers in this game?

unlimited accelerations are 20 shots per rally with 140+ kmh

Counters dont get 140+ constantly (except returns), 140+ is only when we get a fast ball and we are right on the baseline. I see winners in the range of 130s when the ball is not fast

Plus, 99% of TE returns like that...

once the game is as realistic as possible the better players shine through ),

Doesnt change the fact that its still unrealistic. Funny how you talk about realism in most of the posts. This is the first thing that shall go away .

seeing how POOR slices are

so u expect ur slice to be deep constantly from 10 m behind the baseline?

Kindly stop complaining like a kid and talking abt realism. Just because you cant do the things as well in this version which you did in previous version including your left right superman technique, you are complaining.

Refund

Anyways I am out of this thread as I could care less about how a certain style is overpowered or how a certain style is destroyed

[Florian]

Stan all that complaining is pathetic, you're just saying it yourself : you want other players attributs to get massively reduced because you have lost 4 of the last 5 sets exos we've played since last week's new build (but you said yourself that our level was even in the end). What you forgot to mention is that you've lost many sets as well (mostly TBs) to supposed inferior level players (vamos rafa, daniik, josif...i don't see only counters there ) mostly because you couldn't break them. So maybe it's time for you to accept that returning well is an asset in case you want to break (funny you haven't mentionned how Djokovic destroys his opponent's serves with his 1st class returns...), and that if you lose sets to players with an inferior ranking than yours, well maybe you should accept the fact that it's because you sucked there, or that you need more time to adapt. And since most players start to adapt well enough (last build is only few days old...) you can't blame anyone's advantages if you can't move well enough YET !

Btw i had very tough matchs and losses recently vs bassem, stefan and oussama, and i don't think they won because they were able to hit 160s winners on each attack so stop whining and posting here hoping that your wishes are going to be granted so that your dreams of reaching N°2 can live and go practice more as some ppl did successfully.

[Stajus]

Send me an ATP match to defeat the 3 things I mentioned in the first post? You've mentioned Simon, but Simon isn't able to get much power at all vs big bashers, he's scrambling from left to right constantly and hoping for errors sometimes even...I'm just giving valid points, not my problem you're obsessed with winning by utilising flaws. Oh, and Djokovic vs Murray was at Rome, not Madrid, where Murray moonballed with slices so many times...

[Florian]

i think Davydenko is a perfect example of a fit players who moves extremely well and counters everything without being that much powerfull.

[Stajus]

Simon and Hewitt are counters (they can't bash, especially Hewitt)...Davydenko is more of a power baseliner...but ok TE counters can bash fine...

[Mohamed]

It's better than the latest version..

[manutoo]

Serena Williams Fan,
I did nothing on the network code, nothing changed. Signature of .exe has changed though, and that's the thing that can trigger trouble in firewalls ; for routers, it shouldn't have much influence though.

Stajus,
Florian & vamos rafa said almost all of it, but I'll add : counter's acceleration done against normal strikes are crappy, so basically when the counter's opponent runs out of acceleration, the counter also runs out of decent acceleration ; that also means the counter can't do great acceleration if his opponents doesn't do acceleration. Thus there's no need to limit anything...
Oh, and 1 tip: if someday you step on a real tennis court against someone who knows how to play tennis, don't use slice DTL on defense, that's bad (except if you play against a left hander and u're right handed, or vice versa).

dr.ivo,
try to get someone to send you the install file over Msn ?

Florian & vamos rafa & Ap3,
are you ok with the changes done to the counter style ? My goal was to make the counter steps back about 30-40cm in average (or lose some precision if he doesn't step back).
Hopefully, that should be more balanced against other styles, but if you think otherwise, let me know..!

[Serena Williams Fan]

Yeah not sure what's going on but maybe its is the .exe that not letting my router read it because I mean i've done everything you said to do and the same results happened with the port 4321 not reachable when I try and host but I can always join someone game without any problem.