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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Oussama Hassad » 07 Mar 2012, 10:36

manutoo wrote:Brad1981,
are you lowering player speed using MtRun ? If so, you should raise it back a bit.

Stajus,
jump speed is more determined by speed & net presence skills than by the jump bonus depending of style (except for the volleyer where it's equivalent of 100% in both skills).
I could replace the jump speed bonus by a ball difficulty modifier during the jump, but that would be harder for me to tune it effectively, and harder for the players to feel how the bonus works. So I think the current mechanism is nice enough while not creating anything utterly unrealistic (ie: nothing like over speedy players).

plz manutoo don't make every day verision plz
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Stajus » 07 Mar 2012, 12:32

Funny you ignored the other four points about counters directly ;) Btw, jump bonuses between styles are significant when playing, so I'd check my own theory if I were you :lol:

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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Serena Williams Fan » 07 Mar 2012, 12:46

I guess that means my problem has fully stomped you. And... why do I have to be the one to take the class lol why can't you. But I guess I just have to enjoy playing online by joining people game seeing that my router and network don't want to play nice with the game.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby vamos rafa » 07 Mar 2012, 13:04

Stajus wrote:Funny you ignored the other four points about counters directly ;) Btw, jump bonuses between styles are significant when playing, so I'd check my own theory if I were you :lol:

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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby SPC » 07 Mar 2012, 15:39

manutoo wrote:spencercarlos,
I didn't change Defender's acceleration.
Defenders are same than other styles, except with less free accelerations & no jump bonus at net, but with enhanced topspin strikes.

Manutoo, the enhanced topspin strikes are really nothing to add to the defender´s style. Afterall you can vary the spin yourself. Me as a defender that uses very little spin to the ball can tell you how i feel. :wink:

You talk about less free accelerations, but with the update its basically impossible to find deep shots with this style, they rarely happen, i can tell you that i found myself running around the court, with no chance to turn a point into my favor and being in the receiving end of winners 90% of the time.

You probably turned a Hingis like style into a Wozniacki :thinking:

That being said i changed the style (away from defender) and things are back to normal more or less. :bounce:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Marin » 07 Mar 2012, 15:40

No impossible to install this new version...Some problems in instalation
AGAINST MODERN TENNIS ELBOW.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby Brad1981 » 07 Mar 2012, 17:44

Manu, actually I even raised the CPU acceleration speed a bit, and kept MaxSpeed as default. But even when I put it back to normal speed, the CPU slices like never before when on the run from side to side. Build 80 was the last build that I didn't see this in. CPU used to hit slice just once in a while, but not practically all the time when on the run. But in Builds 81 and 82, the CPU just slices and slices in this situation. Even when I try to RAISE its speed. But if I raise it too much, it is unrealistic. So I now keep it at normal default, and still the CPU slices and slices. :(
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2011 v1.0d

Postby manutoo » 08 Mar 2012, 09:36

Brad1981,
doh, you were right, the CPU was in a slice frenzy... :sweat:
I didn't teach him how to calculate the new acceleration, so he was way off most of time. So now, I did that right, and he's even better than before to calculate how much time he needs to reach the ball..! But it means the slice choice was still changed, so I had to tune it ; let me know if too much or too little slice.
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Re: Comments about Build 82

Postby Brad1981 » 08 Mar 2012, 16:30

Thank you Manu. Looks good.
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