Mana Games

[Mahmut]

I know this discussed many times but i really think there should be something regarding to Passing shots or Running shots. Being able to hit a good passing shot is very important and a talent for me.

I find running shots are lacking precision goes mid service line most of the time. I think there can be a talent like 'Passer' which boost presion, players ability to hit more precise shots while running or both more precise and bit speed boost on their shots. It could be against player coming into the net or only related to running shots.

My other suggestion which i definitely consider is a talent is being able to hit good running shots from 2 m behind the baseline so hitting far from the baseline. In the game i don't think you can hit good shot precise and powerfull enough from so back like some players can do IRL.

There are 5 serve talents and i find many of them unneccessary. I don't think being able to hit a slice or top spin serve is a talent. Isn't every player can hit these kind of serves whenever they want? Also clutch serve.

[Mahmut]

Game is great but lacks some kind of risky, talented shots. Eventhough it lacks errors to me but It feels too much simulation in a bad way for some points. So much focus on timing the ball looks best shots can be hit well with more on static with little movement. Idk how skills like muscle tone/speed or other skills regarding running shots have effect it doesn't look like much or enough. Movement should be bit more important than it is in the game.

[KINGBARBOZA]

Game is great but lacks some kind of risky, talented shots. Eventhough it lacks errors to me but It feels too much simulation in a bad way for some points. So much focus on timing the ball looks best shots can be hit well with more on static with little movement. Idk how skills like muscle tone/speed or other skills regarding running shots have effect it doesn't look like much or enough. Movement should be bit more important than it is in the game.

Movement is by far the most important skill in game. If you can't get into correct position then you won't be able to hit anything decent

[Mahmut]

Movement is by far the most important skill in game. If you can't get into correct position then you won't be able to hit anything decent

Ok, what about the hitting on the run what do you think?

[manutoo]

Mahmut,
1) Passing is already a skill for the CPU, and for the human, it's in their brains.

2) Making the acceleration on the end of the run easier would quickly completely change the balance of the game, especially defense/attack-wise ; I'd suggest you train a bit against the ball thrower alternating 1 ball on the left and 1 ball on the right

3 ) Completely on-the-run strikes will never work because of the aiming system : either you cannot aim, or it should have an autopos and then these strikes would be easier than others (instead of being harder) ; I guess it's possible to imagine a mechanism where you'd need to start to press the button exactly 2-meter away from the hit position, and the strike efficiency would depend if you started to press or not at that point, but it might be complicated to differentiate it with end-of-run strikes, and it might be super complicated to apprehend for the average person...

4) According to the feedback on another topic, it seems people don't use enough of the spin-serve talents... And it's obvious not all players can kick a serve like Thiem or slice one like Ivanisevic (yeah, I'm old )...
The 2 other ones are meant to help represent better the behavior of some mystic players (1st one being Sampras).

Reminder : a talent is a skill that doesn't need too many steps

[Mahmut]

Thanks for your response.

2) I disagree, actually i think it will deepen the gameplay. So you won't need to be agressive only from inside baseline which i feel it is the case most often.Idk what other thinks but i think especially when i compare with real life it's very difficult. Like i said idk when did you look last time but little boost for precision for running shots will make the game more balanced in terms of turning defense into attack instead of relying baseline agression only.

3) Yes, this was actually my problem with the game. I also thought physicality skills(Speed, Muscle tone) can play more role for running shots.

4) I think all players do running shots quite regular but specially Alcaraz and also Sinner nowadays does some great running/passing shots. Earlier Rafa was great at this. There is point in AO 2012 crazy passing shot from Nadal from so far against Federer where Fed didn't managed to take the volley at the net. My point is apart from those shots are difficult to implement in the game understandably players doesn't do those mistakes at the net. This is maybe different but related topic as even when you are standing even with short acceleration sometimes very hard to pass the opponent.

I feel Rafa has unique style and most difficult to implement in game or all tennis games. I know you have bulldog:) but as a fan would like to see something represents him more like you have for Sampras: )

[Mahmut]

Any answer Manutoo?

[manutoo]

You didn't have question and I think my previous answer covered the topic...

Anyway, I gave it more thought, and because of mathematical imprecisions because the game logic is done at 60 fps, it made sense to raise the sweet spot size while running ; so today's update makes it a bit easier to hit on the run (ie: while moving). Let me know if you notice anything different.

[Mahmut]

Okay, thank you i will try.