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Questions on Serving

Postby EdicoNova » 10 Aug 2015, 20:53

Love the game, just a couple questions regarding serves

1) I know that if serve power=serve consistency then b1+b2 serve chance is 70% and b1 is 85%, and that these percentages increase the higher consistency is above power. Is it possible to know the exact formula? Just would be useful in determining how to set stats, but if consistency is 30 points over power and it only increases the serve % by a little bit, then it's likely not worth it

2) Does serve precision ever affect misses long or short, or is consistency the only check on this? Or does serving have a circular precision area like other shots?

3) Is it possible to add in a serving aiming area to practice just like other strokes?
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Re: Questions on Serving

Postby manutoo » 11 Aug 2015, 05:01

Hello,

1) if (Consistency >= Power)
Rate = 1 - 0.30 * (0.9 ^ ((Consistency - Power) * 17.50));
else
Rate = 0.7 * (0.875 ^ ((Power - Consistency) * 10));

2) No.
Yes, but the up/down precision isn't big enough to make the ball goes fault.

3) Maybe for TE4.
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Re: Questions on Serving

Postby fatehasfans » 11 Aug 2015, 15:49

Yes, this was one of my queries too - I never knew if when serving do I think of there being an imaginary cursor (just like I get in preview for shots) that I can manipulate (in any direction) when tossing up the ball. Manutoo just said yes, if so then how does this work because the advice I'm getting from tour players is that there is no up/down direction on serve only left and right so this is a little confusing? I heard up and down put 'kick' into the serve and I see the results but I would love some clarification on how serving actually works because I am moving the directions in circular movements, just like a normal shot (i.e top-left and bottom-right movement etc for exact placement), with mixed results. I would love to have a preview or practice area for serving so I can learn exactly how the placement works because at the moment I've heard so many conflicting stories on how to serve that I still can't seem to master it myself. Some players say to hold down the button for the duration of the ball toss, others say press twice (once to throw up and once again to hit), and for the direction (and second press timing if using the double button method) some say press when the ball is at the zenith of the toss whereas others say before or after the ball has reached its highest point. It is racking my brain because I cannot get a consistent serve going, when I think I have it I use the same method and get a double fault but there has to be a consistent method of serving because I have played against people who are hitting the corner over and over at 200KMPH+. So they've clearly figured it out, so this is something that isn't simply down to 'feeling' there is a technique that can be mastered. I would love some advice on this.
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Re: Questions on Serving

Postby Guest » 11 Aug 2015, 19:12

Well, I just do sams mod world tour against the cpu, but i think I can aim the serve pretty well. I use serve animation #1 and hold the button the entire serve. I'll hold left or right once the ball reaches it's apex and hold. Depending on the spin I'll start a fraction earlier or later.

I think part of it is just practicing a lot with the same serve animation, and I also think their are multiple techniques that work. The technique I outline works well (I think) but sometimes my recovery after serve isn't good.

ManuToo, is the formula for b1 success similar? Do you just replace value .30 with .15?
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Re: Questions on Serving

Postby EdicoNova » 11 Aug 2015, 19:31

Sorry thought I was logged in
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Re: Questions on Serving

Postby manutoo » 12 Aug 2015, 04:32

EdicoNova,
it's (1 + Rate) / 2

fatehasfans,
it works same than all strikes => http://www.managames.com/tennis/doc/Ten ... ml#serving
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