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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 15 Feb 2015, 12:18

The screen of my laptop has no input lag then,no?
Probably I will have to play on my laptop without tv then...
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby manutoo » 16 Feb 2015, 04:33

It depends of your monitor ; usually, monitors are better than TV about input lag, but it's not the case all the time ; also, it seems that all LED monitors have an input lag, but usually it's under 20ms.
You can try to play on it and if your player feels more responsive, then it'll mean that the input lag is significantly lower.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 16 Feb 2015, 19:09

It is a little bit better now without lag. I defeated Club in straight set but against Junior I still have no chance. No matter how good I serve, I get no ace, not even with very accurat 200 kph serves I receive return winners. I still don't get most of the drop shots because my player moves forward in slow motion. I also have the problem that very often when I press the lob button my player doesn't do it and plays a normal shot.

2015-02-16.17-09---R.FED-vs-T.HAA-4-6-1-6.dmo
2015-02-16.17-37---R.FED-vs-T.HAA-2-6-2-6.dmo
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby manutoo » 17 Feb 2015, 04:09

Depending of your opponent's speed, you may need to serve 210km/h exactly on the line to get aces : on your 1st service game of 2-6 2-6.dmo , you didn't put a serve near enough of the line.
Also, your positioning, especially up/down, is still not good. As I told you several times, turn on the Danger Zone to learn how to better position yourself.
And try to anticipate the dropshot by looking at the animation of your opponent ; if he's doing a slice strike, he may be preparing a dropshot.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 17 Feb 2015, 20:34

2015-02-17.19-04---Rusty-vs-Fedou-4-6-2-6.dmo
2015-02-17.19-27---Rusty-vs-Fedou-3-6-2-6.dmo

i still feel like the opponents are able to unhumanly anticipate any shot in the rallies. Is there a trick as well or does my player move slower than his one?
I feel like in these 2 matches I served really good and as long as I could dictate play out of the advantage of my serve I was winning the points but when it went to normal rallies I had no chance, just could not move as well as the opponent. Do you see this as well?
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby manutoo » 18 Feb 2015, 06:29

I just checked the 1st game... So yup, it's getting better, you don't look completely lost like before !
I think at this point, you need a lot of practice. You did only 21 online matches, your opponent did 151 (plus probably some CPU matches), so you have to practice a lot to get better... I noticed you were anticipating (or guessing) a bit too much, and your reflexes seem still a bit low... So you can re-read my advices in the previous posts, they still apply...
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 18 Feb 2015, 10:27

But in online the danger zone is in itst not allowed and when you use the danger zone in offline you still can't get the balls left/right when playing online. I don't see the direction out of the opponents motion.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 24 Feb 2015, 20:51

Hi, it's me again :D .
I played Junior sub 10 and experienced strange ups and downs of the cpu. In the first match it was a real battle with few breaks until the 3rd set, then I 2 times was a break up but the opponent suddenly played a lot better than before and so he won in the end.
In the 2nd match, same cpu difficulty, the opponent seemed to be a lot weaker than in the first match so I destroyed him. Is something like this known already?

2015-02-24.18-57---R.FED-vs-T.HAA-7-6-3-6-5-7-4-6.dmo
2015-02-24.19-45---R.FED-vs-T.HAA-6-3-6-2-6-4.dmo
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby manutoo » 25 Feb 2015, 04:44

Tennis is a game of balance. This means if you play a bit less good, your opponent might play better. Against the CPU it's very true. If you get mentally tired & aim a bit less well, do slightly shorter strikes, have a bit less reflexes, then it'll give much more time to the CPU to prepare its strikes & it may start to dominate the exchange.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 25 Feb 2015, 12:57

No, you misunderstood it. I played worse in the 2nd match in my opinion but my opponent was much worse as well. Look at the 3rd set of match 1 when I was twice up a break, the opponent just played unbelievable there and then look at the match I won in straight sets. There is a vig difference in how much he gets back and how much he powers in rallies.

BTW: I experience that when I hit a hard shot the opponent is a lot more agressive on it than when I play a bad shot at him.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby manutoo » 26 Feb 2015, 05:08

If your opponent's style is a counter, then it's a classic behavior : they handle better fast balls than slow balls.
But in a general way, doing fast balls when you're not very well positioned on the court (ie: too far from the center) is usually not a too good idea as you may not have enough time to replace yourself & then it'll open the opposite side for your opponent.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 26 Feb 2015, 10:02

My brother also tested vs junior 10 now and suddenly was able to win some games, before he always lost 0-6 with winning only 1-2 points a set, he didn't improve at all cpu is suddenly a lot weaker, missing a lot of shots.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby manutoo » 27 Feb 2015, 04:56

was it the 1st time your brother played on monitor instead of TV ?
If not, then you probably changed some other settings...
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 27 Feb 2015, 08:09

He lost on monitor 0-6 before. I chabged no settings...Yesterday I lost to junior again allthough I played vetter than in the match that I've won in straight sets. Jubior was yesterday simlly so much stronger again, no idea why.
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Re: Serve-Return

Postby Rusty96 » 25 Mar 2015, 14:58

Hi,
it's me again. Last match my played made at least 10 errors when I was placed perfectly and hit the ball good and directed it very short only but missed them all. It were the shots which went wide and the green bubble appeared. Can somebody explain me what I do wrong there?
2015-03-25.13-51---Rusty-vs--.Sta-3-6.dmo
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