Is it just I suck or the AI cheats?

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Is it just I suck or the AI cheats?

Postby Ronarch » 14 Dec 2014, 12:27

Hi guys, I am a big fan of tennis (and tennis game)
I think this is the best tennis game so far.
I have played the game for a month and can now beat master-10 ai. (not every time, just about 60%)

Although I am able to get wins, I find the high difficulty AI opponents are able to produce many shots that I find myself impossible to hit.
Like running behind baseline to barely reach the ball and still able to hit a counter shot that lands on the line.
If it was me, I can just return the ball with almost no angle or little angle because I have no time to adjust the placement of the shot.
If I press the stroke key too early, I cannot reach the ball. If I press the stroke key later, I have no time to set a better angle.

But I think the AI opponents have no such problem. Even they reach the ball at the last 0.1 second, they can still hit the ball with on-the-line angle.
Did I miss some important skill or they just simply cheat?
If it's the former, please teach me how to do such super counter shot.
btw, I am using ITST mod. I don't know if it matters.
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Re: Is it just I suck or the AI cheats?

Postby manutoo » 15 Dec 2014, 04:46

Hello,

AI simulates a real tennis player, not a human playing Tennis Elbow, and thus can aim anywhere even when short on time.
Although, for hitting the baseline, it means he prepared his strike late and got bad precision and thus the ball could land anywhere and sometimes it lands on the line. You can do same.
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Re: Is it just I suck or the AI cheats?

Postby Ronarch » 15 Dec 2014, 07:48

Simulation of real tennis player could explain that.

But from my humble observation I don't think they have bad precision.
Around 40% of their last moment counter shot could turn to a winner (land ON the line or super close to the line)
Another 40% are still good shots that will not give opponent (me) advantage.
Only around 20% of shots are not good enough or simply out.

If I do the same, the % of Great / Good / Bad shots are maybe 15% / 35% / 50%
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Re: Is it just I suck or the AI cheats?

Postby manutoo » 16 Dec 2014, 04:53

Ronarch,
it's easy to make wrong statistics when you play as you'll always feel a lot more the annoying balls than the other ones.
Your stats might be closer of the reality when you take in account the whole rally, not each strike. For example, if 25% of times the CPU hits an annoying last-instant-shot (AKA counter), then in 2 strikes he gets a ~44% chances to hit at least one, which might be enough to turn the rally in his favor.
On the other hand, the CPU is very good for positioning, so even if you hit the line with your counter, often he won't be much annoyed and you won't get the upper hand in the rally from it.
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