The Incredible Challenge #2 !

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The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby manutoo » 02 Nov 2014, 08:46

Hello,

the Incredible Challenge is back with a vengeance..! (no, not really, the Incredible CPU is just a nice dude :P )

For this 2nd edition, I tried to set a CPU that would better react to different tactics (ie: against volleyers & full defenders) ; so let's see if it'll resist better than the 1st one or not.

The following is a copy/paste/small edition of 1st Incredible Challenge topic. ( => topic15-19616.php )
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in the Forum, people regularly give their level at TE by telling they can beat the CPU Incredible-X.
The issue with that is that it's not a standardized measure as the CPU level can vary vastly depending on a lot of other parameters.

So I propose you a contest to show all your skills against the CPU and compare it to the other players.

Here your opponent :
TE2013_G.Ladal.jpg


You can either set it up manually like this, or download and copy this file in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Tennis Elbow 2013\Profiles\Default" (or your Profile folder if you created one), and then head up to the Player 2's Character Sheet and load the 35th Slot "Antre Agassan" =>
p_Z.Ini

Select the SubLevel you want (from 1 to 10).

Here the settings :
- unmodded TE2013 v1.0e Build 111
- Elite controls
- Average AutoPos (you can set it to Slow if you like bigger challenge ;) )
- Preview : All + Danger Zone (or less, if you don't like it)
- You distribute your points like for the Online "Realistic Mode" ( explanations are here => http://www.managames.com/tennis/doc/Ten ... SkillModes )
- In "Misc Options", set "Offline Skills" to "Realistic Mode"
- In "Options", set Blue-Green Cement court & 1-set match
- In "Recordings" menu, set "Recording" to "Real-time" or "Buffered"
- Start the match
- Press F6 and check the CRC of the CPU is one of these : (EDIT 2020: the CRC calculation has changed, so these CRCs aren't correct anymore)
SubLevel 1 -> 11368307
SubLevel 2 -> 11368291
SubLevel 3 -> 11368275
SubLevel 4 -> 11368259
SubLevel 5 -> 11368267
SubLevel 6 -> 11368227
SubLevel 7 -> 11368211
SubLevel 8 -> 11368195
SubLevel 9 -> 11368179
SubLevel 10 -> 11368187
- Start to play and good luck ! :)

Once you'll have won a match :
- post the recorded .dmo (in "Recordings" menu, click on top left icon to open the .dmo folder)
- tell us your Player Style and his Topspin skill %
- post the match stats from the MatchLog ( = bottom left icon in the "Misc Options" menu)
- tell us how many matches you did before to beat him at that SubLevel (or how often you could beat that level ; for example "I can beat Incredible-1 100% of the times" or "I can beat Incredible-2 50% of the times")
- describe in a couple of sentences how you beat him

Extra notes :
- if you can't beat the Incredible-1 CPU, then you can either participate by beating a lower CPU level (for example Master-5, and in that case don't worry about the CRC, they won't match), or by posting your best losing score against the Incredible-1
- avoid to do use exploit to beat the CPU, or if you do, clearly state it in your match report
- do not hijack this topic ; it's only for reports and possibly short comments on reported matches, but not for big discussions about the gameplay

Reported Exploits :
Do not use the following exploits, they have already been reported and your result won't count if you use them :
- rushing the net after a safe strike
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby manutoo » 02 Nov 2014, 08:53

Ok, I'll start ! (again :blackeye:)

As I don't have too much time nor mood for TE, I didt only 1 try ; I lost 4/6 ; it felt like it was noticeably easier than the 1st Incredible Challenge, especially as I had forgotten to set my Topspin to 0%.
I guess it should get more interesting when raising the CPU sublevel (hopefully!).

Details:
- CPU Sublevel: 1
- my style : Powerbaseliner
- my topspin: 35%
- my tactic : do mostly big serves, & relatively often forehand accelerations

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Antre Agassan (Incredible-1) def. Player 1 : 6/4 - Blue-Green Cement - 0:19'36 (0:42'41) - 2014-11-02 13:27
17 / 32 = 53%   1st Serve   24 / 38 = 63%        16 / 26 = 62%   Short Rallies Won (< 5)   10 / 26 = 38%
1   Aces   7        10 / 14 = 71%   Medium Rallies Won (5-8)   4 / 14 = 29%
0   Double Faults   0        9 / 17 = 53%   Long Rallies Won (> 8)   8 / 17 = 47%
220 Km/h   Fastest Serve   212 Km/h           Average Rally Length: 5.6   
204 Km/h   Avr 1st Serve Speed   201 Km/h        0   Set Points Saved   0
140 Km/h   Avr 2nd Serve Speed   144 Km/h        0   Match Points Saved   1
23   Winners   7        13 / 17 = 76%   Points won on 1st Serve   15 / 24 = 63%
19   Errors   13        7 / 15 = 47%   Points won on 2nd Serve   6 / 14 = 43%
5 / 10 = 50%   Net Approaches   4 / 8 = 50%        17 / 38 = 45%   Return Points Won   12 / 32 = 38%
2 / 5 = 40%   Break Point Conversions   1 / 2 = 50%        1   Return Winners   1
37   Total Points Won   33        2 / 3 = 67%   Breaks / Games With Break Point   1 / 2 = 50%
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby testo » 02 Nov 2014, 15:11

1st try : IC-1 => 6-4 for me. Just one break on 3 occasions

style : volleyer - 28% tops spin
full attack on baseline and run asap to the net

2014-11-02.14-05 - testO vs A.Aga 6-4.dmo


Code: Select all
testO bat. Antre Agassan (Incroyable-1) : 6/4 - Indoor dur - 0:18'11 (0:40'31) - 2014-11-02 14:05

22 / 30 = 73%   1er service   18 / 37 = 49%       13 / 31 = 42%   Echanges Courts Gagnés (< 5)   18 / 31 = 58%
3   Aces   4       11 / 16 = 69%   Echanges Moyens Gagnés (5-8)   5 / 16 = 31%
0   Double Fautes   0       8 / 11 = 73%   Echanges Longs Gagnés (> 8)   3 / 11 = 27%
218 Km/h   Service le plus rapide   220 Km/h          Longueur moyenne des échanges: 4.5   
202 Km/h   Vitesse moyenne du 1er service   202 Km/h       0   Balles de Set Sauvées   0
160 Km/h   Vitesse moyenne du 2nd service   148 Km/h       0   Balles de Match Sauvées   1
19   Points Gagnants   17       17 / 22 = 77%   Points gagnés sur 1er service   14 / 18 = 78%
10   Fautes   14       4 / 8 = 50%   Points gagnés sur 2nd service   8 / 19 = 42%
16 / 22 = 73%   Montées au filet   4 / 6 = 67%       15 / 37 = 41%   Points gagnés sur le Retour   9 / 30 = 30%
1 / 3 = 33%   Break Point Conversions   0 / 3 = 0%       0   Retours Gagnants   1
36   Total des points gagnés   31       1 / 3 = 33%   Breaks / Jeux avec Balle de Break   0 / 1 = 0%





Notice
- each time i have a bp, the cpu makes an ace or a pt just on the line. it happens in 99.999999% in all matches i did vs cpu Inc(Manu, did you code a psychologic bahaviour ?)
- very low % 1st serve for cpu (49%) and sometimes i had to serve with just B1
- too much balls on the line / reality
- CPU always plays really really deep ... (with 25% top spin !!)
- the more you cross your short acc the more irrealistic return the cpu replies

PS : it was in indoor hard.... next match on BG ciment
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby testo » 02 Nov 2014, 18:49

3 attempts to win vs IC3 :7-6(4)

Same style (except top spin down to 9%) and strategy

CPU returns are to manage (very deep or on the opposite line)

2014-11-02.17-46 - testO vs A.Aga 7-6.dmo


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testO bat. Antre Agassan (Incroyable-3) : 7/6(4) - Ciment bleu-vert - 0:27'01 (1:00'16) - 2014-11-02 17:46

39 / 55 = 71%   1er service   29 / 49 = 59%       22 / 49 = 45%   Echanges Courts Gagnés (< 5)   27 / 49 = 55%
6   Aces   3       6 / 20 = 30%   Echanges Moyens Gagnés (5-8)   14 / 20 = 70%
1   Double Fautes   1       12 / 16 = 75%   Echanges Longs Gagnés (> 8)   4 / 16 = 25%
216 Km/h   Service le plus rapide   222 Km/h          Longueur moyenne des échanges: 4.3   
197 Km/h   Vitesse moyenne du 1er service   204 Km/h       0   Balles de Set Sauvées   0
167 Km/h   Vitesse moyenne du 2nd service   148 Km/h       0   Balles de Match Sauvées   1
22   Points Gagnants   28       27 / 39 = 69%   Points gagnés sur 1er service   23 / 29 = 79%
20   Fautes   23       9 / 16 = 56%   Points gagnés sur 2nd service   10 / 20 = 50%
20 / 30 = 67%   Montées au filet   4 / 12 = 33%       16 / 49 = 33%   Points gagnés sur le Retour   19 / 55 = 35%
0 / 0 = 0%   Break Point Conversions   0 / 4 = 0%       0   Retours Gagnants   2
52   Total des points gagnés   52       0 / 0 = 0%   Breaks / Jeux avec Balle de Break   0 / 2 = 0%
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby NESXA » 03 Nov 2014, 04:20

Incredible lvl 1, but my crc is different than your :o

Player Style: Power Basliner
Topspin: 15%

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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby manutoo » 03 Nov 2014, 04:39

testo,
well done !

ShoNe,
oops, I took the CRC from the wrong place, I updated them, it should be ok now... :fear:
And good start !
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby martinw » 05 Nov 2014, 06:32

A tough and fun challenge! (Let me know if I got any of the settings wrong.) I lost a few times and won a couple of times too with this setup: power baseliner, 12% topspin.

Code: Select all
Jarl def. Antre Agassan (Incredible-1) : 6/3 - Blue-Green Cement - 0:11'06 (0:29'06) - 2014-11-04 22:37
22 / 37 = 59%   1st Serve   11 / 18 = 61%        11 / 16 = 69%   Short Rallies Won (< 5)   5 / 16 = 31%
5   Aces   8        6 / 9 = 67%   Medium Rallies Won (5-8)   3 / 9 = 33%
3   Double Faults   0        4 / 8 = 50%   Long Rallies Won (> 8)   4 / 8 = 50%
226 Km/h   Fastest Serve   221 Km/h           Average Rally Length: 3.2   
209 Km/h   Avr 1st Serve Speed   212 Km/h        0   Set Points Saved   0
193 Km/h   Avr 2nd Serve Speed   178 Km/h        0   Match Points Saved   0
13   Winners   10        15 / 22 = 68%   Points won on 1st Serve   9 / 11 = 82%
3   Errors   13        10 / 15 = 67%   Points won on 2nd Serve   3 / 7 = 43%
2 / 2 = 100%   Net Approaches   3 / 9 = 33%        6 / 18 = 33%   Return Points Won   12 / 37 = 32%
1 / 1 = 100%   Break Point Conversions   0 / 4 = 0%        0   Return Winners   2
31   Total Points Won   24        1 / 1 = 100%   Breaks / Games With Break Point   0 / 2 = 0%


As for playing style, I applied a very aggressive approach, going for winners at all times. I can beat the opponent about 25% of the times with this setup.

Thank you! :P
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby hamzafederer » 05 Nov 2014, 21:34

Hello everybody :)


So happy to take part in this amazing challenge and I have to say that this challenge is less annoying than the last, but at the same time it is less realistic, the CPU hits very unrealistic shots.(for example ,the point following 15-0 at one game all :shock: )


Details:
- CPU Sublevel: 2
- My style : Polyvalent
- My topspin: 28%
- My tactic : do mostly big serves, & do forehand accelerations in the right moments
- I beat the CPU at the third attempt



Notice
- each time i have a bp, the cpu makes an ace or a pt just on the line. it happens in 99.999999% in all matches i did vs cpu Inc(Manu, did you code a psychologic bahaviour ?)
- too much balls on the line / reality
- CPU always plays really really deep ... (with 25% top spin !!)
- the more you cross your short acc the more irrealistic return the cpu replies


Completely agree with all points :yes:
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby testo » 11 Nov 2014, 22:31

Lost 7/5 the IC5 after having 2 match pt @ 5/4 on my serve !!

see the pt @5-4 30/15 where i touch the 2 opposite lines and the cpu catch the ball like Usain Bolt ! loooool

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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby www89065198 » 25 Nov 2014, 22:49

- ic 5
- 6-3
- Power baseliner
- topspin: 0%
- my tactic : it's really hard to win .i tried 4 or 5 times.
serving playes the most important role ,just try to serve well
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Re: The Incredible Challenge #2 !

Postby manutoo » 26 Nov 2014, 05:57

www89065198,
woh, impressive result, well done ! :applause:
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