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CPU with low first service effectiveness

Postby Algo » 18 Feb 2009, 23:39

Hi, CPU players(i'm playing at master sub-10) it's having really low first service, this screenshot is one of the best first service effectiveness matches that i've had against cpu so far since i've got another 14 evaluation days
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and it's just 50%(mine's not much better :lol: ), i'm able to beat any of the styles i've played with(pb with low topspin, defender with 100% top spin and 170cm-high and counter, everytime with all the main skills -drive, backhand, volley, service, stamina and speed and special skills- at 100), with troubles but i'm able to win :bounce: and i think it's only because he's having that low effectiveness at the first service
I wonder if it's a bug or something, i don't think that's normal, also because he doesn't do double faults at all in any match

pd: i also have some suggestions on the spanish translation, should i just send them to you by pm?
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Re: CPU with low first service effectiveness

Postby manutoo » 19 Feb 2009, 06:19

Hello,

50% is a normal 1st serve rate ; the common range is from 40% to 80%, with the median likely around 55%.

You can post your Spanish corrections in the forum in a new topic entitled "Spanish Translation Corrections" ( for example ;) ), so other Spanish speakers could give their opinion as well... :)
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Re: CPU with low first service effectiveness

Postby Algo » 19 Feb 2009, 23:47

about the translation, we have agreed with Santiago that those things should be changed, just to have a more general spanish, not because his translation is bad or something:
-Change "Sirviendo para quedarse en el partido" por "Sirviendo para mantenerse en el partido"(Serving to stay in match)
-"Reciente rally" por "Rally anterior"(Last Rally)
-"Error de volea de reves/derecha" por "Error de volea por reves/derecha"(Backhand Volley error/Forehand Volley error)

about the low service: I think that those percentages(around 40 and 50), should be for lower level cpu players and it should get better going to 80-90 at incredible mainly because incredible cant be the same than pro level or pro be the same than junior or club
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Re: CPU with low first service effectiveness

Postby manutoo » 20 Feb 2009, 07:27

Hello,

ok, I did the first 2 corrections, but not the 3rd one, coz "volea de reves/derecha" is taken from the strike name lists, it's not apart... :?

For the service, the more high is the difficulty level, the faster (but just a bit) and the better placement (ie: nearer the lines) the CPU will hit his serves, so I think it doesn't need to have a higher 1st serve ratio in addition...
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Re: CPU with low first service effectiveness

Postby Algo » 20 Feb 2009, 19:22

manutoo wrote:Hello,

ok, I did the first 2 corrections, but not the 3rd one, coz "volea de reves/derecha" is taken from the strike name lists, it's not apart... :?

For the service, the more high is the difficulty level, the faster (but just a bit) and the better placement (ie: nearer the lines) the CPU will hit his serves, so I think it doesn't need to have a higher 1st serve ratio in addition...

what do you mean?, what we meant is that the preposition "de" at "Error de volea de reves(or derecha) could be changed for "por" to not repeat twice the "de"
-but that faster serves and better placement are not visible if he has to do less riskier second services because he's not doing much first services, at the end is like no speed and placement bonus at all. Also, a better player doesn't have just faster services, but a better effectiveness with his service too
so my suggestion:
Club and junior: from 20% to 50% at 1st service and if, for example, club player is doing an average of 140kmh service, junior should do 150 or 160kmh as average
pro and master: from 50% to 75% at 1st service, pro should have an average of 170kmh(like what often happens in online fair mode) and master 190
incredible: from 75% to 90% at 1st service with a higher than 200kmh average and often getting to 234kmh
i think that would make matches against cpu funnier for everyone, from new players to experienced players, more than have just one effectiveness ratio for all the levels :lol:
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Re: CPU with low first service effectiveness

Postby manutoo » 21 Feb 2009, 06:23

"volea de reves" is shown in the character sheet, and other places with the strike names, so cannot change it...

And I think the CPU service is well tuned as it is now. In real life, the 1st serve % range is more or less the same whatever the player's rank is...
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