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still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby testo » 04 Jun 2014, 22:37

First of all, i think the last build brings more realism in the game so thx Manu

But i have to say that it still stays 2 unrealistics things :

- volley of very slow incoming ball : lot of errors even with B2. In reality this kind of ball = pt for the vollyer

- slice is TOTALLY UNUSEFUL ...
* First the rebound is too high (you make a slice ? bam a 140 kmh acc from your opponent) so i'm really sorry Manu but the slice doesn't slow your opponent attack ! in fact you give him more time to accelerate !
* Second : i found the % of error for the slice is too high / acceleration. It's my case but i see regularly error from my opponent' slice ...

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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby manutoo » 05 Jun 2014, 03:37

Hello,

1) it depends the kind of ball exactly, but often it means the ball was hit too low, which even in real life is pretty hard to handle ; thus, you have to position yourself correctly, even by coming closer of the net on such ball, or by stepping back to take it after the bounce (mostly in case of dropshot)

2) we already talked about this, I still didn't change my mind... ;)
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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby testo » 05 Jun 2014, 07:53

Manu,

1) i talk about slow incoming balls, whatever the position

2) i'm not the only one to think the slice rebound is really too high and don't lower the opponent next attack. a low rebound & sliced ball should lower the acc by 10-15% at least (140/145 kmh => 120-125)
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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby manutoo » 06 Jun 2014, 03:49

1) slow balls above the net are very easy to hit.

2) oh yup, that sounds like a great idea : you want a 100% safe slice strike that will totally annihilate the chances of the opponent to hit a winning acceleration and thus every crocodile on TE will have the occasion to easily make anyone bore to death when playing the game..! :thumbleft:
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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby testo » 06 Jun 2014, 06:06

pfffff

1) No they are not and i'm not the only one to think that. it's like net cord when i told you about it at the beggining, you had the same answer. Then ....

2) rebound is too high, not my fault...
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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby manutoo » 07 Jun 2014, 04:02

1) I answered the netcords were easy to hit back ? Where ? I checked the "beginning" : the 1st time you talked about netcord, I didn't answer anything => topic9-11349.php?start=30&hilit=filet , and the 2nd time, I asked for a .dmo => topic9-14551.php?start=0&hilit=filet ... Not really matching your memory, or you had something else in mind ..?

2) I checked the bounce height of a good slice : between 30 & 60cm depending of the surface & conditions ; so it's already pretty low. Maybe you'd expect it to roll over just after touching the ground ..? :whistle:
And implementing your "idea" would probably kill the online mode in less than a week..! :yes:
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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby testo » 07 Jun 2014, 08:19

why are you so aggressive ??

1) topic13-13682.php?hilit=+cord : didn't answer
2) topic13-13216.php?hilit=+cord: didn't answer
3) topic8-14063.php?hilit=+cord : answer after 6 month and several post & dmo (u didn't ask for coz i post one before any answer)
4) viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14075&p=163066&hilit=cord#p163066 didn't answer

about the only one topic you post it, i have forgot it (but it was after pts 1 and 2) so please check & read before being so aggressive !

Who has a bad memory ??

And why each time i told you something about unrealism, you answer like that (kill the game, ....) ? When i told you about acceleration after long running that was not realistic (don't remembrer exactly when), you did'nt agree but finally i saw you change gameplay in last building on acc on long running... you don't understand that i just want you to improve realism not help me to win cause i'm too weak & too slow and i will stay at this level whatever you do.

I remember you told me that slice lower opponent next acc and i answer "no" but it should be
If you don't want any remark so close the forum...

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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby manutoo » 08 Jun 2014, 04:24

1) so yup, it seems it's you who have a bad memory and not me (at least on this one :aureola: ), as I never "had the same answer" than in my 1st post of this topic.

2) you implied I was wrong twice, basing your say on a lie (or a wild imagination). How much did you think it'd make me happy ?

3) in the oldest of the message you found, you said "i will post no dmo" ; I have nothing to discuss with someone that refuses to post a .dmo, thus my non-answer. Plus you very often complained about fantasy things, so much that some people complained about your complains. You also do some interesting reporting, but I don't always have the time to dig around to discover the quality of your report.

4)
And why each time i told you something about unrealism, you answer like that (kill the game, ....)

Lie again. Maybe I said that to you once or twice before (if any at all).
And there, it's very true, just re-read my answer & think again about it by yourself, you should likely come to same conclusion.

5)
i saw you change gameplay in last building on acc on long running

I didn't. What briefly changed is the required net clearance on the balls down the line ; being on the run or not didn't influence that ; I promptly fixed that and now it's about same than before.

6) slice lower the precision of the your opponent strike

7) I know you want to help the game to become better, but if you don't listen to my explanations or imagine stuff, it makes the process much more painful.
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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby testo » 08 Jun 2014, 22:58

no comment
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Re: still exist 2 majors bugs/unrealistic shot

Postby santamariamaterdei » 08 Jun 2014, 23:04

lol testo, maybe make ur own game and then start complaining about everything... manu is just one human being, he won't adjust game for everyone who asks to....
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