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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby The Joker » 23 May 2014, 22:23

the profitable for him ... The Ranked Players cuz they are the ones who make advertisements for the game outside and bring people as u who have no tennis and have no ability to play but just money bro :)
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby miharu0607 » 23 May 2014, 22:25

No. Lol.
Most of the people were attracted by vids on youtube, showing cool animations, realistic courts and other stuff you hadn't seen in ur demo version, so you know what - u can be even number one in that offline tour (i bet it's mostly because of lags :D), but you are not allowed to call people noobs, because your posts here are showing how big noob you are when it comes to things like marketing, tolerance and kindness.

And such advices leave for boys your age, or read something about democracy and human rights in Egypt, or maybe better not, because you won't understand anything.
Anyway, thanks for derailing the thread :dance:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby Nigogu » 23 May 2014, 22:31

The Joker,
Seriously :?: , I mean, all the updates, including this one, have mentioned modding, and you still don't know what is it :?:
You can't call noob miharu when you don't know who is him. He is a real legend, he has 30 times more time dedicated to the game than people like you.
When you buy the game, and experience a offline game with no lag & awesome mods you'll know the real difference.
Meanwhile, don't post your lackadaisical attitude to the people that really help the game and less in a official release topic.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby Nadi madi » 23 May 2014, 22:32

So first of all, im totally against the time of releasing this new version, cause obviously after every new version bugs (I mean errors in the game) appear and also things that need to be tuned a bit, and we don't have much time to test it as RG already began.

Secondly, I have to agree with everyone commented or reported powerless shots on the run, so looks like you have replaced net cords with hitting totally powerless shots if you are 1 mm off-positioned , and yes it would have been realistic if we didn't have a style called "Overpowered Defender" where defenders will just use their overpowered and hard to control spin to make you run from right to left and wait for your powerless shot to hit a winner with their overpowered shot angles or bash a DTL shot, also these powerless shots happen mostly when you try to hit a DTL shot which is the No.1 choice vs Defenders as cross court shots are not really effective , so now i have to worry about many elements against defenders while they have to just spin spin spin and hit short angles from any position, not to add that it happens when you get a nice high approach but when you try to get into the ball and rush quickly to the net, it ends up with hitting a powerless shot which looks totally unrealistic as the best approach is being hit by getting into the ball and taking it on the rise.

Thirdy, Slice is too high as some people mentioned , even if you are not late on the ball, so maybe you need to tune it.

Fourthly, again as i posted before, how can you tune volleys without tuning random short angles on return, and random short shots on the run, plus short angles with body?? , volleys are obviously too high giving more time for players to reach it and hit a DTL bash or short angle with acceleration, or a lob winner in case you are Heinrich or Nadalesque, which makes me feel like my net presence is greatly reduced as i get passed by 95 km DTL shots while i have 100 in net presence??

At the end, I feel like my player runs slower than before on the return of serve, so any changes about that?

I will post a .dmo later to clarify the points i mentioned.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby The Joker » 23 May 2014, 22:36

Look , For all guys who does Modding , If u wanna say something good or bad about version , I appreciate .. but plz do in ur field which is modding ... criticize or say goods about (Modding) Cuz Thats (Your Field ) ... but when it comes to the game itself and Type of shots .. Me , Nadi , Kuga ,Nadalesque and Others who play .. are the ones to talk cuz this is our field ... ok guys???
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby The Joker » 23 May 2014, 22:38

Nadi madi wrote:So first of all, im totally against the time of releasing this new version, cause obviously after every new version bugs (I mean errors in the game) appear and also things that need to be tuned a bit, and we don't have much time to test it as RG already began.

Secondly, I have to agree with everyone commented or reported powerless shots on the run, so looks like you have replaced net cords with hitting totally powerless shots if you are 1 mm off-positioned , and yes it would have been realistic if we didn't have a style called "Overpowered Defender" where defenders will just use their overpowered and hard to control spin to make you run from right to left and wait for your powerless shot to hit a winner with their overpowered shot angles or bash a DTL shot, also these powerless shots happen mostly when you try to hit a DTL shot which is the No.1 choice vs Defenders as cross court shots are not really effective , so now i have to worry about many elements against defenders while they have to just spin spin spin and hit short angles from any position, not to add that it happens when you get a nice high approach but when you try to get into the ball and rush quickly to the net, it ends up with hitting a powerless shot which looks totally unrealistic as the best approach is being hit by getting into the ball and taking it on the rise.

Thirdy, Slice is too high as some people mentioned , even if you are not late on the ball, so maybe you need to tune it.

Fourthly, again as i posted before, how can you tune volleys without tuning random short angles on return, and random short shots on the run, plus short angles with body?? , volleys are obviously too high giving more time for players to reach it and hit a DTL bash or short angle with acceleration, or a lob winner in case you are Heinrich or Nadalesque, which makes me feel like my net presence is greatly reduced as i get passed by 95 km DTL shots while i have 100 in net presence??

At the end, I feel like my player runs slower than before on the return of serve, so any changes about that?

I will post a .dmo later to clarify the points i mentioned.

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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby miharu0607 » 23 May 2014, 22:42

The Joker wrote:Look , For all guys who does Modding , If u wanna say something good or bad about version , I appreciate .. but plz do in ur field which is modding ... criticize or say goods about (Modding) Cuz Thats (Your Field ) ... but when it comes to the game itself and Type of shots .. Me , Nadi , Kuga ,Nadalesque and Others who play .. are the ones to talk cuz this is our field ... ok guys???

Yeah, in your dreams. The fact that someone is developing the game, doesn't mean that he is not playing it! Are you that stupid to do not understand it, or you just pretend?
Most of the changes are all right, just the annoying thing with drop shots, which are reachable no matter what is your and opponent position.
So don't feel so special, because you are not ;) Not our fault that you're able to play just one set and you're seeing that annoying info on buying full version ':D
And for real, if you are thinking it is you who decides what kind of improvements are going to be implemented - you must be very naive then :)
You are one ignorant brat, and you will never change it :)
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby Maryanucci » 23 May 2014, 22:50

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I guess that someone want to play RG on the net...
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby Maryanucci » 23 May 2014, 23:09

Old version was very unbalanced. For this one I will tell my opinion when I test it.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby Algo » 24 May 2014, 00:50

Update is definitely just fine.
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby manutoo » 24 May 2014, 05:56

Everybody,
I checked and actually the required net clearance is too high for DTL balls (so it has nothing to do with being on the run, or not well positioned), due to some tricks I put long time ago to lower the balls touching the net ; these tricks aren't needed anymore, so I'm going to remove them, check it fixes the situation, and if it's better, I'll release a new Build within a few hours ; I'll also tune the net clearance for the dropshot & all low strikes (ie: I'll lower the minimal required clearance), which should fix all issues reported in this topic.

Topspin strike didn't change (topspin strike having a very high net clearance means it was not influenced by the last changes).

Bonus note: everybody has rights to talk about anything, as long as he's respectful of other people ; that's an important part of democracy. Just don't use that right in this topic..! :sweat: There's the off-topic Forum for that... ;)

How to add new hairs in Modded game,
check Male.ini & Female.ini to get the new hair settings, GameSys.ini for the new numbers of hairs, and then copy over the new "Menu/CharSheetCustomize.Menu" and put the needed modifications from your Mod in it (it depends of your Mod ; if you Mod didn't have that file, there's no need to copy it over & change it). Don't ask anything more about this in this topic, use the Modding forum instead.

Game freezing after each game online,
it means there's some problem communicating with managames.com to update the score in the server list.

Ayu62,
it should still have a few net balls, but very less than before, so it should be closer than real life (maybe it'll have a bit less than real life, though).
And it still happens somewhat often on volleys.

Nadi madi,
Grand Slams are the best time coz people (including me) get more interest in tennis & tennis game, so it's much much more motivating for me to work on TE... :aureola:

Lucian86,
ball was supposed to bounce off the net since long time ago, but I did a mistake in the speed conversion calculation... :blackeye:
I'm not sure how I'd animate the net, it's not easy stuff... :fear:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby Nik » 24 May 2014, 06:57

The Joker wrote:the profitable for him ... The Ranked Players cuz they are the ones who make advertisements for the game outside and bring people as u who have no tennis and have no ability to play but just money bro :)

Shut up you imbecile moron! We all have right to talk about and give an opinion. Stop saying " Ranked players ". Ranked players are not gods or some special aliens. All top players are not really good in technique. Many use bugs and small glitches in this game to win lot of their points and tournaments. To be honest everyone has their own strategies in tennis and we rarely see many strategies in this game. Many are just ball-bashers or spinners and they enjoy winning with only one buggy strategy. Technically i would crush them on real tennis court in real life, but in this game i can't because of strategy limits. We are giving our opinions to change these limits for a better tennis game. So respect that. Also i don't care whether it's released before a slam or not because it's at least a chance for many players to beat top players who have one dimensional game. Don't write non-sense about "Ranked players are only to be allowed" crap over here. If you don't like it GTFO from here :evil:
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Re: Tennis Elbow 2013 v1.0d [Windows]

Postby phucnguyen0209 » 24 May 2014, 10:46

emmainf wrote:thanks,now appear in game ..but I can´t change them ...I press the icon of hair to change it but nothing appears in the right side of the screen..any option... you understand me?And sorry for disturbance[/b]


Hey,I also had this problem but I have found the solution :) .Just follow me,open your script.ini,scroll down until you find this line:
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[Hair]
NbPreset   =   6
FirstType   =   1
NbType      =   6
NbTypeFull   =   32

or something else like that,what you have to do is just change [Hair] into [Male_Hair] :) ,tell me if it works,good luck ! :jap:
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Re: Comments about Build 107 (TE2013 v1.0d)

Postby phucnguyen0209 » 24 May 2014, 11:14

miharu0607,I have a question,which files did you modified to make those new hair styles? :) Because I want to add those new hair styles to my patch but everything isn't easy as I thought,may be also need some .3ds files :sweat: ,can you tell me? :annoyed:
Here is my male.in if you need:

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[Male/Hair]
PosX      =   312
PosY      =   520
Model      =   Hair01 1 15 27 30 Hair02 2 20 25 26 Hair03 3 9 10 14 23-24 31-32 Hair04 4 8 12 18 19 29 Hair05 5 11 16 22 28 Hair06 6 13 17 30
DependOf   =   Hat
ModelA      =   0
ModelB      =   3-6
ModelC      =   1-2
ModelD      =   2
AlphaOther   =   Male/Skin 3-4
//AlphaNeeded   =   1
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Re: Comments about Build 107 (TE2013 v1.0d)

Postby Marin » 24 May 2014, 14:52

you can only win there if you hit 150 short angles and serving all time first Services on seconds Services and coming to net..too too boring game now..and you did it before RG
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