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Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby testo » 16 Apr 2014, 23:34

whatever the skills, i stay between 55 and 70% ....


Manu, could take more in account the diff power/consistency/precision ?

With 84/100/100 i have exactly the same range of % than 100/100/100...

Today on 1 game i did 20-30% 1st serve and ... i lost my serve !
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby testo » 16 Apr 2014, 23:36

i see major part of players having best % 1st serve with 100/100/100.... not logical
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby manutoo » 17 Apr 2014, 04:21

Hello,

in average, it works correctly. But that doesn't prevent to have some sets with very low % of 1st serves in, and some sets with very high % of 1st serves in.
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby testo » 17 Apr 2014, 05:59

yes but after several tens of attempts, the range is the same with 80/100/100 and 100/100/100 ...not logical
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby manutoo » 18 Apr 2014, 03:52

In Realistic Mode (remapping to 30-90%), having +20% (for example 80/100) will give you an average of 76% of 1st serves in. +0% (example 100/100), 70%. Except if you keep an exact tracks of all your serve stats, with manual counting of when you missed your serve coz of wrong aiming, then I doubt you can know for sure the difference between the 2.
Having +20% in precision (compared to power) is usually a waste of points ; at most, go for +10%, but +0% should be more or less ok (depending your style & feelings).
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby testo » 22 Apr 2014, 14:43

whatever i try (70-80-90-100/100/100) i navigate between 50-65% in major part of the game and sometimes between 70 and 80% (1 x / 10)

it's too much random particularly when you are not a lucky people (like me)
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby testo » 23 Apr 2014, 21:12

1 time bad, 1 time very bad ... one time bad, 1 time very very bad ....

CPU2 (Incroyable-2) bat. superlooserL : 6/2 - Terre Battue - 0:17'34 (0:36'04) - 2014-04-23 21:10

17 / 32 = 53% 1er service 9 / 24 = 38%
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby Manufan » 26 Apr 2014, 09:11

manutoo wrote:In Realistic Mode (remapping to 30-90%), having +20% (for example 80/100) will give you an average of 76% of 1st serves in. +0% (example 100/100), 70%. Except if you keep an exact tracks of all your serve stats, with manual counting of when you missed your serve coz of wrong aiming, then I doubt you can know for sure the difference between the 2.
Having +20% in precision (compare to power) is usually a waste of points ; at most, go for +10%, but +0% should be more or less ok (depending your style & feelings).

Manutoo, does this apply forehand and backhand as well? cuz if i have +20 in precision compared to power....is it waste? I felt the ball rise is better with more precision. So if i keep just +10 it would be ok? Reply me please. It would help me in setting up my points...its like i get 30 points more for decreasing those extra 10 in precision. Those points are very useful for me.
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby manutoo » 27 Apr 2014, 04:00

Manufan,
it's always interesting to have +20% on precision (so in Realistic mode, that gives +33%) on FH & BH if you use the short acceleration & short strike often, as it gives a bonus on them. Also, you get more accurate aiming when you're late on ball. So if you want to get closer of +0%, then you'll have to test to find out what's better for your game style.
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby Manufan » 27 Apr 2014, 06:25

manutoo wrote:Manufan,
it's always interesting to have +20% on precision (so in Fair mode, that gives +33%) on FH & BH if you use the short acceleration & short strike often, as it gives a bonus on them. Also, you get more accurate aiming when you're late on ball. So if you want to get closer of +0%, then you'll have to test to find out what's better for your game style.

yeah I do way too many errors. Thanks for clarifying :D
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby testo » 08 May 2014, 19:05

Manu, you MUST change the way you manage the % 1st serve, it's definitely not good:

1stServeTooLow.jpg


Even if you consider a random part, it happens to often in the same side (lower %)
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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby testo » 24 May 2014, 21:23

de pire en pire ...

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Re: Tired with this ... % 1st serve

Postby SDAWG » 23 Jun 2014, 18:17

Is it just me or does your player miss more serves/ hit more unforced errors whenever they play tougher opponents. The errors I can understand by why would I miss more serves? Is my player getting nervous? LOL!
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