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Re: Previsional "Tennis Elbow 4" Planning

Postby noname1988 » 08 Nov 2018, 00:19

Hi,
I think TE is really good game now. There is just need to improve some detailts to make it perfect.

First of all, you should work on what the player sees right after starting the game. I mean the default game setting (players, camera setting, or various graphic elements - this is very important for TE marketing.
I thing something like this :

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- it would look much better than what is currently the default. Shows the strengths of this great game.
(Personally, I would really like to have more options for 3d camera settings. (set it like in this video is impossible) :applause:

It would also be nice to add some important tennis moves for more reality of game. For eg.when the player maximally reaches the ball.
Something like this: Image
Details such as adding steps animation when changing the player's position during the service (right left)

etc....
It is currently the best tennis and the competition is far behind. Refining the details will make the game even more "professional".

I am a big fan of this game, I have been following with interest for many years (from 1996 and 1.3 ver)! :)
All the best!
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Re: What do you think TE4 should change/have/improve?

Postby manutoo » 08 Nov 2018, 10:21

noname1988,
strangely the linked video seems to have been removed from Youtube.
But anyway, if you have tried TEM2, you already have seen the direction of TE4 menus : it'll be mostly same, but with another color theme.

And yup, there's a lot of room for improvements on the animation side, but this is the most delicate task, both in term of production and in term of coding, so I can promise anything on it except I'll try to do my best... :)
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Re: What do you think TE4 should change/have/improve?

Postby noname1988 » 08 Nov 2018, 10:34

Sorry manuto - Now video is available (before was private).
I did not mean the menu, only the settings, the tennis court, the players' clothes, etc. I mean, by default, the game would look moded by the community (after patch).

Thanks for your hard work to improve our best game! :)
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Re: What do you think TE4 should change/have/improve?

Postby manutoo » 08 Nov 2018, 11:01

Oh ok, I see what you mean now ! :)
So hopefully, it'll look much better than the video you have linked, as it's one of my 2 main goals for TE4 ! ':D (as explained in the 1st post here => topic15-19240.php )
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Re: What do you think TE4 should change/have/improve?

Postby Hello » 12 Nov 2018, 14:36

any news? About improvements I would recommend putting the split step to the answer, I think the ball in top spin must be slower and you have to see the rotation. Recovery for the short ball with animations done well. slide animations made better and just the rest added the others. I think I ask too much but after the disappointments of twt and [Please don't advertize concurrent games] I want a perfect game :aureola:
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Re: What do you think TE4 should change/have/improve?

Postby Hello » 12 Nov 2018, 14:58

I tried to play tem2 and congratulations! forget what I said
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Re: What do you think TE4 should change/have/improve?

Postby noys » 15 Nov 2018, 21:05

Hi Manutoo,

I have been playing this wonderful game TE2013 for nearly half a decade. I have a few suggestions on the playing styles in TE3013 and upcoming playing styles in TE4. I am putting the suggestion based on real tennis and the Tennis player's game you have based your styles on. Some of these may require only a small configuration changes.

Defender : This style should hit more slices especially on the backhand side reflecting A.Murray's style of play. The backhand slice and forehand topspin on normal ball could be the style of play here just like acceleration is the style of play for powerBaseliners.

(New) Bulldog should have a more heavy top bonus than a Defender reflecting Nadal's style.

PowerBaseliner : This is an overpowered style. There is nothing wrong having an overpowered style but it has to balance out with the unforced error. So the acclamation shot must be associated with very high risk of an unforced error for both AI and human player.

Puncher : This style should have a big Service bonus. This should reflect A.Roddick/ J.Isner's style of play. That will be very big serves, which will generate a weak return and the player would punch away the easy ball. This style should NOT do any serve & volley (which it does in TE2013) but can end the point on net from a rally.

Counter : There is not much change required here. The only thing is this style should not approach the net on rally or Serve & volley (which it does in TE2013). This is based on L.Hewitt's gameplay, who made his game from the baseline only. It does not make any sense for a style whose main weapon is counter acceleration to approach net that often.

(New) CounterPuncher : Not sure how it will be. It should have some visible difference from other styles.

(New) AllRounder : This style should mainly make its gameplay from baseline like R.Federer. Should have a surprise serve & volley (maybe 10% of serves). Also it should have surprise drop-shots every now and then.

AllCourtAttacker or Varied : I would like to repeat the same as I mentioned for PowerBaseliner. Apart from that, This style should serve & volley in most of its first serves (around 75%) since this style should reflect someone like P.Sampras/ W.Ferreira.

Volleyer : This style should serve & volley all the time (on both all of first and second service) on moderately fast surfaces, and all its first serves even on clay. This style should reflect S.Edberg/ J.Mcenroe style of play. Although this style is extinct in modern tennis, but since you have kept seasons from 1990, this is a recommended change.

To summarize it
Currently in TE2013, some styles are overpowered, so acceleration shots should come with bigger risk of unforced error.
All styles should have some special feature, so it can have a clear differentiation from other ones.
Most important one is to control the net approach of the styles. While most styles should reflect modern Tennis based from baseline while some
older ones should have a bigger net approach.

I have just purchased TEM2, hope we have a great TE4 coming up next !!!
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Re: What do you think TE4 should change/have/improve?

Postby HallyAce » 16 Nov 2018, 01:28

I would like to see an addition to the player outfitting of Full headed Bandanas. (Like Hulk Hogan or what Andre Agassi wore during the 95 Australian Open)

I go into more detail about in my original post here. https://www.managames.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=30077&p=254095#p254095
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