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Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby AlterBridge30 » 14 Jun 2019, 18:11

Hi,

First of all, I want to say that I am really enjoying the new Tennis Elbow Manager. I played the first one for around 6 years and loved it too. One thing I am experiencing on a new career I've started is winning games easily in 3D mode but losing the same matches in a text based system.

For example, I signed a 17 year old that looked like a decent player with a good potential for the future. I entered him into a Futures event and watched all of his matches in 3D. He qualified for the main draw and I came up against some players that looked better than my player. One of them looked better by a considerable margin, yet, I managed to win the tournament and won most of my matches 6-1 6-0 or 6-0 6-0. I thought this seemed too easy (I am playing on Master difficulty) so I went and re-played the matches on a text based match. Well, I didn't get past the first round, losing 6-3 6-2 to a player that I would expect my player to lose to.

Is there a bug at the moment where the 3D system is too easy? I didn't play these games myself, I watched them in simulation mode.

Here is my player...
TE2 5.JPG
My player


Here is one of the players I beat on the way to winning the tournament. Beat him 6-0 6-0
TE2 4.JPG


Another player I beat 6-0 6-0
TE2 3.JPG


I think you can agree that on Master difficulty, my player should not be beating opponents like that, 6-0 6-0 :shock:
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Re: Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby manutoo » 14 Jun 2019, 20:46

Hello,

I see 2 possibilities :
1) You have turned on the Manual Player Control during the 3D Match, which gave you the option to change your opponent level and you set him to an easy level (eg: Junior-10 instead of Pro-10), while your own player is still on Pro-10 and thus p-own'em all... :P

2) There's a bug that changed your opponent level ; it's not impossible because I made some change lately to how it works to prevent having the wrong level when turning off the Manual Player Control

You can press the Scroll Lock key (modifiable in Settings -> Controls) on your match opponent presentation screen to send me a bug report, and I'll check your saved game to know what's going on exactly.
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Re: Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby AlterBridge30 » 14 Jun 2019, 22:03

manutoo wrote:Hello,

I see 2 possibilities :
1) You have turned on the Manual Player Control during the 3D Match, which gave you the option to change your opponent level and you set him to an easy level (eg: Junior-10 instead of Pro-10), while your own player is still on Pro-10 and thus p-own'em all... :P

2) There's a bug that changed your opponent level ; it's not impossible because I made some change lately to how it works to prevent having the wrong level when turning off the Manual Player Control

You can press the Scroll Lock key (modifiable in Settings -> Controls) on your match opponent presentation screen to send me a bug report, and I'll check your saved game to know what's going on exactly.


Hi Manu,

Thank you for the reply! I have checked in settings and it appears that 'Manual control' has been turned off the whole time. I have sent across a bug report for you, hopefully you can spot something wrong.
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Re: Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby AlterBridge30 » 14 Jun 2019, 22:05

John Estrella Burgos (1140 - Level07-0 -f2) def. Daisuke Sumizawa (447 - Master-0 -f2) : 6/0 6/0 - Semifinal - Morocco F2 - Clay - 0:27'24 (0:52'11) - 2019-06-14 02:04 (2019 ; Week 11)
19 / 36 = 53%%
1st Serve
23 / 33 = 70%%

19 / 31 = 61%%
Short Rallies Won (< 5)
12 / 31 = 39%%
1
Aces
0

11 / 13 = 85%%
5
2 / 13 = 15%%
2
Double Faults
0

20 / 25 = 80%%
Long Rallies Won (> 8)
5 / 25 = 20%%
105 Mph
Fastest Serve
101 Mph


Average Rally Length: 7.7

93 Mph
Avr 1st Serve Speed
94 Mph

0
Set Points Saved
0
81 Mph
Avr 2nd Serve Speed
83 Mph

0
Match Points Saved
0
15
Winners
1

15 / 19 = 79%%
Points won on 1st Serve
7 / 23 = 30%%
3
Forced Errors
9

11 / 17 = 65%%
Points won on 2nd Serve
2 / 10 = 20%%
13
Unforced Errors
25

24 / 33 = 73%%
Return Points Won
10 / 36 = 28%%
2 / 3 = 67%%
Net Approaches
1 / 2 = 50%%

0
Return Winners
0
6 / 7 = 86%%
Break Point Conversions
0 / 3 = 0%%

6 / 6 = 100%%
Breaks / Games With Break Point
0 / 1 = 0%%
50
Total Points Won
19

That is also the match log from when I played Sumizawa.
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Re: Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby manutoo » 15 Jun 2019, 11:01

I got your bug report and I had messed up setting up the level of our coached players, thus they were much stronger than our opponent.

It'll be fixed in today's build, thanks to your report ! :yes:

Moreover, you did well by posting your match log, as it shows the level was incorrectly set for our player (the "Level07") but also there was a little bug (the "f2" instead of the actual level modifier, which is not used anymore and I just replaced it by the Form of the Day).
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Re: Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby AlterBridge30 » 15 Jun 2019, 18:55

Hi Manu,

Thank you for taking the time to look at the file and fix the bug :D I did think it was a bit unrealistic that my player was beating everyone 6-0 6-0 :lol:

Will the new patch be out later today?
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Re: Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby manutoo » 16 Jun 2019, 07:02

It was already there when you wrote your post : viewtopic.php?p=262454#p262454 .

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Re: Winning easily in 3D matches but losing in text based?

Postby AlterBridge30 » 16 Jun 2019, 18:58

Brilliant! I have just watched a few matches and it seems a lot more realistic now. Keep up the good work!
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